/ NEW REVIEW: Arc'teryx M270 Harness
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I use an older version of M270, which is pretty similar apart from the apparent abundance of clipper slots on this new one. I've yet to have a problem with the gear loops being too full; they are bigger than most, and through a combination of using clipper slots for screws and cunning racking have always managed to fit nuts, hexes, quickdraws, bulldogs and loose krabs.
Each to their own in terms of winter rack, of course, but for the (admittedly modest) amount of routes I've done in it, I've not wished for another two loops.
The Petzl Hirundos seems to be the in-vogue alternative, so that might be worth a look.
I was a bit suspicious about the back gear loop as well but it holds plenty of stuff, is low profile and light and not really any harder to get things on and off than a plastic coated one.
I notice though on their summer harnesses - the R300 and and the 275 they don't have a back rack at all. I've never really understood why N. Americans haven't also worked out how nice having a separate rack for your belay device, prussiks and other non-runner bits and bobs is?
Wild Country and DMM have updated harnesses ranges coming out - it might be one of their fixed leg versions suits your needs?
> Wild Country and DMM have updated harnesses ranges coming out - it might be one of their fixed leg versions suits your needs?
Any idea when the new harnesses are coming out? I need a new harness and liked the look of the new renegade in the recent UKC video
> I've never really understood why N. Americans haven't also worked out how nice having a separate rack for your belay device, prussiks and other non-runner bits and bobs is?
I normally carry:
Front Left loop:
3 racking krabs with wires one
Front Right loop:
7-9 Cams each on their own biner
Back Left loop
Nut key (on a proper krab)
Camera case on a screwed up screwgate.
Back Right Loop
In addition to this I might carry 2 120cm and 2 60cm slings over my shoulder.
I really don't see the need for a fifth gear loop. It useful to have some thing to clip your trainers to. But I prefer my second to carry them or to walk off in rock shoes if it is remotely hard.
Some people don't like big bunches of nuts on one krab for instance but I've always been happy with 1-10 on a single krab.
I've got one of these Black Diamond Chaos http://www.blackdiamondequipment.com/en-us/shop/climb/harnesses/chaos-harness
I got it when I couldn't source an Arc'teryx R300 in the UK without waiting for 8 weeks .
Its pretty good , it does pick up dirt easily though & there were reports of the plastic covers on the gear loops breaking intially ( not the actual loops ) but I've loaded all 4 loops with lots of gear many , many times & no sign of cracking , it has a 12k rated haul loop which is useful too . Worth looking at if you don't mind a slightly garish colour scheme .
I like your reviews Toby, but out of three photos two of them are general ice climbing shots which don't really show the harness in any detail. The 4th Arc catalogue shot is fine but they're staged and you can find them anywhere. I like to see up closer how an item fits on a real person and how the bits - new or good or bad or whatever - fit together and look in real life. Ideally they would show up close the features, or lack thereof, that you mention in the text.
There's nothing fantastic, but here are some more pics of the harness http://bitsandbobsandoddsandsods.blogspot.fi/2013/03/additional-m270-photos.html if you right click on any of them you get much higher res versions so you can zoom in on the harness to some degree.
Yes can appreciate those requirements the BD Chaos wasn't my number one choice to be honest , looked at the DMM Renegade but saw that people were having trouble with sizing & a couple of other niggles , always try to buy British & DMM when I can as well . Having said that there are a couple from Edelrids latest range that look good too .
it could be youd like the BD aspect. rear loop and slots, 4 regular loops.
its got adjustable leg loops, which after years of doing without (using a hirundos) im enjoying having.
hirundos was a great harness, but i found it would loose a bit of integrity when racked heavily (no affect on strength i assume), and i will still use it for summer (a new one), but its nice to have a bit more robustness in winter. i can save grams elsewhere.
But I hadn't done any close ups wearing this harness, which is my bad. I kind of thought the pics on the arcteryx website, or their publicity shot you used, show it more clearly than I can BUT Damo's point about seeing how it fits on a normal(-ish!?) person has much value.
I really suspect the UKC massive could live without those! :)
Come on toby, how about one with you in the harness in just your sauna gear?
Something for the ukc calender january page perhaps?
80-90o C or F? i have a BD label here that cites 70c as the upper limit for harness use, so if we are talking C then your excuse holds.
BUT i cant see why you can cannot have the harness on as you role in snow...according to my data theres a lower limit of -65c, so even the F conversion means your excuse starts to wane.
> 80-90o C or F? i have a BD label here that cites 70c as the upper limit for harness use, so if we are talking C then your excuse holds.
If the sauna is cooler than 80 C, it is generally referred as bastu (ie. swedish sauna).
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