In reply to john arran: some very good points there John and the main one being a good ascent from a young gun.
I do think though that the number of crash pads do help mentally on this sort of route / problem and climbing high numbers with this level of padage is not the same as your ascent or that of some others who have done it before.
I am not trying to take anything away from what he has achieved as he has openly and honestly shown his style of ascent, but it is a very different style of E9 to that you describe and some others have done.
This issue is not about Oli, let me make that clear. I don't know the lad and have nothing but praise for him getting on these routes its great to see and is inspiring.
The issue here is how far does all this go, we had an E10 tumble to E8 with the use of pads and a ladder to sort out the landing, but if you attack the route in the original way that is where the grade comes from .
So I think what I am saying is great effort Oli awesome to watch and fantastic choice of route, great climbing up a brill wall, but E9 may be a little hard to claim. There will only be Oli who can come back and give his thoughts on this, as no else can see inside his head. How much difference the mats makes, only one person can say, but John you gave a great insight into the protection the mattress gave you on your ascent (not very much).