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As a regular reader of UKC I often read stuff, be it athletic achievement, professional expertise of something else that very obviously fits in to one or other of these categories. I guess we have all met some bullsh*ttersover the years, but it seems more common on here, maybe a result of the medium.

Any thoughts? Although please dont and embarrass any current UKC users.

In reply to The New NickB:

How would you judge this?

In reply to Removed User:

Usually just various claims over time that don't add up, although all sorts of things are verifiable if you can be bothered to look, which ocassionally can be.

In reply to Deviant: But just because people have different views they feel passionately about, does not mean they are lying. You have stated two opinions in your response above

1. That Britain will never give up the Falklands or Malvinas as some would say.
2. That the Catholic Church is undefendable

Both are simple opinions. Neither are fact. Many others would disagree. Is there something wrong with that?

In response to the OP. I think there are differing ways that people use the forum. Some talk on it as they would down the pub after a couple of pints, exaggerating the facts (as you do) to make the point. Others seem to disregard the debate in favour of just picking holes in other people's arguments. Either way, this forum in my experience is full of people who do rather dull / repetitive jobs (myself included) and have nothing better to do that jot idle rubbish on these forums. I think I write the equivalent of several novels a year on here which is a bit sad I suppose.

In reply to The New NickB: you're clearly not a member of singletrackworld.

In reply to The New NickB:

might it be its easier to check up? That plus subtleties get lost and so something which is meant as a pisstake doesnt have the facial expressions/body language or tone to make it clear?

In reply to AlisonSmiles:

It's funny cause I've never particularly thought about it, though now that you've mentioned it, I can't help but think of all of the serial bike buyers/builders/racers/downhillers/freeriders/etc that you get over on STW and the fact that a significant proportion of the time when you here them going on you just file it away under a load of shite. Yet round these parts by and large I take what people say at face value with the exception of certain individuals on extreme ends of the spectrum who have just disappeared up their own wholes.

In reply to The New NickB:

"As a regular reader of UKC I often read stuff, be it athletic achievement, professional expertise of something else that very obviously fits in to one or other of these categories."

No really, I am THAT good!

In reply to The New NickB: Two examples stick in my mind. The first is that whenever there is a thread on IQ it seems that the average score on UKC is around 180.

The funniest one was a thread about pee bottles. There was predictable claims about how wide an opening was needed but there was also bizarre competitive claims about how large a capacity the posters needed. Quite why they thought needing a 2l capacity pee bottle to last a night was anything to boast about I wasn't sure.

In reply to Frank4short: I stopped short of suggesting he check out guinealynx forum for guinea pig owners ... a bit niche I suspect.

In reply to The New NickB:


I've never noticed it? Maybe you are seeing what you expect to see?

In reply to tlm:

I am not sure I expect to see it, I just see it sometimes.

In reply to The New NickB: live & let live.....why let it bother you(if it does as you never mentioned if it did or did not) climb for yourself & be true to yourself are my feelings on it. have met some 'monumental bullshi**ers' along the way & always found myself pittying there need to do it really

In reply to The Papa Lazarou: their need as opposed to there need sorry

In reply to The Papa Lazarou:

Well said.

In reply to The Papa Lazarou:

It doesn't, I find it interesting really.

In reply to BigBrother:


The one that always puzzles me are the people who join every thread on Extreme Rock (the book) to point out that copies are '*always* turning up in charity shops' and 'they've seen three of them in the last month'. They may be telling the truth in which case I suspect the original plates weren't lost but were stolen by a cabal of British Heart Foundation, NSPCC and RSPCA.

In reply to BigBrother:

Yeah but some people like to get their balls in there as well

In reply to The New NickB:

I'm far too busy putting up new E9s to post made up acheivements on UKC.

In reply to The New NickB: yes me too. I imagine people do it out of low self esteem/self worth as a way to 'boost' their self image & their peers opinion of them (not as I am in any way qualified to do so) but find it cruelly ironic as in most cases I have witnessed most of the recipients of their untruths easily see through them & ridicule them for it & certainly don't think any better of them

In reply to The New NickB:

There have been a few classic fantasists on UKC over the years:

Callum Nicol
Si O'Connor (part of a much wider fantasy!)
That dude that said he'd done Guerdon Grooves.

Genuinely deluded individuals but highly entertaining.

Any others?

In reply to The New NickB:

I don't know about that but as I said to Neil Armstrong as we landed on the Moon.....

In reply to Steve John B:

Whenever pee bottles are mentioned I have to bring wide mouth nalgenes to the table. Its my puerile humour.

In reply to The New NickB: I started a thread about this a while back, but about life in general, not just on UKC. There were some cracking stories.

In reply to Submit to Gravity:

Seriously, though, how do you know (or think you know) that someone is bullsh**ing. It is easier to read people when you can see them face to face but on here?

TBH, I take everyone's claims as honest and if I find out they have been lying then I just feel sorry for them.

In reply to BigBrother:


This winter whilst camping I've been seriously considering getting a pee bottle, getting out of bed at -20 just isn't fun. And thinking about it I can sort of see why wide mouth (you absolutely want to be sure everything is pointing into the bottle so no splashes) and a large capacity (you don't want it to actually reach down enough to touch the pee!) could be necessary, although its all quite disturb to dwell on!

My favourite one, which isn't really a lie or a fantasy, is people who insist on giving windchill figures, as if that's what the temperature really was. Windchill is a bit of bollocks idea anyway considering few people go naked rambling in winter, but clearly saying "it was a windchill of -15!" sounds more impressive of saying there was a light frost and gusty winds.

In reply to Removed User: I've never thought of anyone on here as a bullshitter. I've thought a few people could maybe be more modest, but it's not their fault they're not as perfect as I am.

The bullshitters I've met in real life left you in no doubt that they were bullshitters!

In reply to DaveHK:


At least from his blog Callum came over more as just a bit odd and a happy dreamer than a fantasist. I wonder how his climbing has been going recently - he hasn't updated the blog in ages.

In reply to TobyA: depends on the conditions I'd add, at -20 I'd do it (get out the bag that is) but when the weathers really closed in on you I don't know what I'd do to be honest. I took my sleeping bag, tarp and bivy sack upto stickle tarn thursday night, started off cold and clear, needed to pee, and got out of the bag to do so, 2 hours later though, wind is very strong, gusting to gale force at times, no way would I have been able to do anything about the call of nature. How much warmer is the snow line compared to your old lightline? I am wondering if its worth adding more down to mine you see, and there is a company in the lakes that do it.

In reply to Removed User:

In real life people don't record everything for posterity, so if you think someone is stating something that completely contradicts something they said a month previously on here you can go and check. I am aware of at least one current poster who is a well known poster from the past that has come back as a completely different character.

In reply to The New NickB:

Well...?

In reply to TobyA:

To be fair, didn't he walk across Vatnajökull not long ago? Not bad going...

In reply to The New NickB:

What like claiming national/olympic levels of boxing, running, F9a's .... ?

I just had to say it, sorry.

In reply to The New NickB:

You doubting my ascent of la dura dura in ski boots: Would you care to step outside?

In reply to Southern Man:

Also, I couldn't help but wish he'd set up his burger stall by the CIC hut the other week whilst I was feeling a little peckish on Comb Gully!

In reply to Southern Man: I often wondered if a hotdog stall would do a roaring trade at the trig point on good days, fresh coffee and a dog sir? A Bain Marie and a couple of stoves.

In reply to Southern Man:

Judging by his recent thread asking for directions to the Hutchinson Hut, he may be scouting out the Cairngorms for his catering activities rather than Ben Nevis.

In reply to BigBrother:


I've come uncomfortably close to filling a 2 pint (1.135l) milk bottle after a night in the pub, so a 2l bottle might be useful. It's not a boast, merely recording the weakness of my bladder and ability of my kidneys to remove excess fluid from my body... I'd much rather be able to lie in bed in peace at night, only to emerge in the morning and hose down the campsite...

In reply to captain paranoia: it's easy done capt'n I stick to single malt with a splash of water these days, after a similar experience.

I only drink single malts at huts and bothies now. The hassle of getting out a sleeping bag and getting to the toilet to pee every hour during the night that comes with wine and beer is a pain.