/ If you put a runner on a treadmill that is travelling at...
Never, ever again.
Oh, and EasyGym (pah!) staff quote when I asked how to get it to tell me minute/miles "Sorry, I don't get enough time to work out how the kit works". He was very nice about it, though.
Can't expect too much if you're a member of a 10-20 quid a month gym, TBH. I pay a tenner a month for mine and don't really expect a lot other than a shed with a load of equipment in it.
A bit like flying Ryanair...
Treadmills are in a different time zone to everywhere else, time just drags.
that sort of thing... change the incline..
i found interval training helped pass the time , along with some very good music on my ipod/mp3 player (for me dance music)
i also used to really increase the incline alot too .. that really mixed things up..
i found i worked harder on a treadmill then i did out on the road or fells
i use turbo trainers and exercise bikes during the winter after work now and always vary the resistance levels and pace so i am interval training.. just maintain one speed bores me silly.. interval training really improves my pace too
wish i could find gym for 10-15 quid per month
The treadmills at my gym have in-built TVs but I never remember headphone. This means enduring 20 minutes of a) Doctors b) local news or c) an old movie in silence.
I've found that using the treadmill twice a week just about bearable if I concentrate on speed-sessions, so that I'm running close to my max for a 20-25 minutes.
This is part of the problem: Motivation is entirely negative. In non-aberant actually-going-somewhere running, you kick to maintain pace, and feel good about it. In why-on-earth-did-I-think-this-might-be-a-good-idea treadmilling you keep going purely to avoid flying off the back of the thing, possibly taking out one or more gym-waifs in the process.
I came to the conclusion that if I ever do it again, I'll find a quiet corner, bring a good book, and run a long way slowly.
1.5 k warm up.. 3 x 2 k at 18kph, 5:20 min mile, 750m rest at 10 kph, then 1 k cool down, basically 30-60 seconds at 16,15,14,13,12,11,10,9,7kph..
Whereas I ran 6 miles in the snow in the morning and 5 miles under the moon in the evening. And suddenly life was worth living again.
I think it can help..
I wasn't doing it at all.. but my lesotho running mate.. aiming for 65 mins at Berlin half.. called me out for running too slowly too much..
It depends what you are after..
If you want to improve hard sessions have to be hard.. but you also need the miles.. and interesting runs help that..
> I think it can help..
> I wasn't doing it at all.. but my lesotho running mate.. aiming for 65 mins at Berlin half.. called me out for running too slowly too much..
> It depends what you are after..
> If you want to improve hard sessions have to be hard.. but you also need the miles.. and interesting runs help that..
That's interesting, as tales of Kenyan athletes taking issue with British runners who join them for going out to hard on easy and steady runs are plentiful.
I know, I know. I had a tempo run planned. I have a 1/2 marathon target in a few weeks. It was too icy. I went to the gym.
Four things I did wrong, I think.
(1) I need to convert min/k to min/miles in advance, rather than try and do this while running fast (during which I typically can't remember my own name, let alone do sums).
(2) I listened to music. I never normally do this. This screwed up rhythm and possibly also breathing (I don't know - I was listening to music).
(3) I couldn't keep my eyes off the km counter on the display. Not sure what the solution to this is, but it did my head in. With a watch, you can choose when you look.
(4) I was too far away from a fan (assuming, of course, EasyGym's actually have these).
Changing pace every k might help. I mixed it up a bit, but not that much. Given that it costs £5 per time I'm not going to go for short sessions.
Ah, now I'm talking myself into going back. Stop me.
60-90 seconds off Marathon pace.. so 6 minute mile marathoner the slowest I should run is 8 min miles, the bulk will be low > mid 7's...
But also big mileage.. I was commented on a FB post and Jeff Norman commented.. he holds the Snowdon Marathon record.. basically he said as we were doing low mileage we should do X..
We were both 100 mile weeking.. 120-150 miles a week.. then the speeds are less crucial.. if only doing 40-60 miles a week I think there has to be more focus on the miles you put in..
Look at Farrah, 130 mile weeks.. for 5/10k's...
So I learn. but time flies..
Then the recoveries go way to fast..
I almost never do more than 10k unless running with Tsotleho then we can chat.
Stick it on 2%..
The guy I'm training with runs all winter on a treadmill, he's from Lesotho so not a fan of the cold.. he's aiming for 65 mins at a half marathon next week..
Whats your PB?
I actually think the opposite.. too many people take the easy option and go out for a fell run.. trick yourself into thinking its hard work. Aye its enjoyable.. is it good training? sometimes, often not.
Could it be perhaps that you've been facing the wrong way?
is there any specific conversion ratio from normal running to treadmill?
Tad curious since slowly starting to run again and currently it is treadmill only.
The usual advice is to put it on 1% to give the feel effort wise of running on flat road, but you may want to vary elevation and speed to releve the tedium. Like the OP I love running, but treadmills.
Everything has its place and it depends on your ultimate goals and background as to what will benefit you most.
Both evil but I'd rather do my max sessions at the track than a dreadmill but living in Cornwall it's rare that I can't get outdoors.
I use a rather swanky gym and the treadmills have screens and my headphones are always in my gym bag.
I can happily bung it on random profile, so it varies elevation, to make it more interesting while I giggle away to Big Bang Theory, or something.
If I can get one behind my wife on the exercise bike, so much the better ;-)
After 20 mins, or so, I'll pretend to know what I'm doing with the various weights machines and then pop next door and swim a mile.
Time does run far too slowly on a treadmill, like it does in a swimming pool, so I only use them when the weather is really terrible or if I want to run fast, or do intervals, both of which I find easier to do on a treadmill than when outside.
To make it bearable, I often wear headphones and I use my heart monitor, though I never know what to make of the numbers afterwards. Doing intervals makes the time pass more quickly.
I use the gym at work, at the end of the day and try to do one treadmill session a week, to help my speed, but in fact do it less often. The choice, when I get there, is between going outside for a five mile run, through the local town which I quite like and know I can do, or going into the gym, and its world of tattoos, mirrors and muscles where I may well find all the treadmills occupied by slow walkers, or a queue of tut-tutters when I carry on past the regulation 20 minutes. Going outside seems a more attractive option.
The treadmill has definitely helped me to make myself go faster when outside. I could very well plod along the whole time at somewhere between 8:00 and 8:30 pace, but seeing that I can (just!) keep up sub 6:30 (15 kph) for 8 k on the treadmill has made me push myself to regularly do some sub 7:30 miles when outside.
I did fly off the back once.
Once did a half-marathon on a treadmill at the work gym (50p a week). Things were very quiet, and I had to pass the time somehow. Never tempted to do it again though.
I like to play games in the gym, like going slightly faster than everyone else and trying to outlast everyone, I ended up doing a 2 hour session! I was also wearing a 20-25kg sack haha
Climbing indoors is one thing, the rock is often wet, dark or cold. But running indoors, and paying for the pleasure, wtf is that all about?
> Climbing indoors is one thing, the rock is often wet, dark or cold. But running indoors, and paying for the pleasure, wtf is that all about?
For me, I pay a monthly fee so that I can use the free weights, maybe the resistance machines, the pool, the sauna, the steam room. Then I started to use the cardio equipment and found that I push myself when I think that people are watching, or I play games as I said above. I don't have the space for my own gym and if I did I'd probably not work out as hard as I would if I was in the gym. For some people it may be different but for me it works.
Tell me about it!!! Over here in Sakhalin I've had to use the hotel gym as we're now in the spring thaw and the roads and pavements, as well as being potholed to buggery are full of a slushy calf-deep wetness, often with a frictionless sheet of ice under it and deep invisble holes here and there.
I did a *whole half hour* on the damned thing last night and mentally it felt like running a half-marathon. I was bored stupid after about 2 minutes. Even changing speeds and inclines doesn't work for me: the sheer ennui of being on that bloody travelling belt is soul-destroying. I really dunno how people do it!
Still, looks like I'll be able to get on the roads again tomorrow as I can now see enough c;lear pavement for it not to be a big risk.
> For me, I pay a monthly fee so that I can use the free weights, maybe the resistance machines, the pool, the sauna, the steam room.
Well that's all fair enough if you're into that stuff. But specifically, I find running indoors bizarre. I think motivating yourself to train outdoors, in the elements, day or night has a mental aspect to it that you cant get through group narcissism and shite MTV. Group narcissism is what climbing walls are for.
Also, having been in the army, part of me finds it hard to reconcile forking out for these things.
> Well that's all fair enough if you're into that stuff. But specifically, I find running indoors bizarre. I think motivating yourself to train outdoors, in the elements, day or night has a mental aspect to it that you cant get through group narcissism and shite MTV. Group narcissism is what climbing walls are for.
> Also, having been in the army, part of me finds it hard to reconcile forking out for these things.
A mate just ran 66 mins at Berlin half from training on the treadmill.. not sure of wearing packs or any of that rubbish..
But I train on the treadmill in periods of snow as I just can't train hard enough.. not because people watch.. I run around 90 miles a week so not sure motivation is an issue.. I've had one day off in around 150 days..
I concede that snow is fair enough, hence my analogy about climbing walls being there for when one can't do the real thing. But I don't understand why you would otherwise choose to do so. Unless you live in a big city with no big parks maybe...
It's just one way of staying fit which brings its own specific gains. Just another variation of short-term grimness that helps the long term. Sometimes, when it's still cold, still dark and it's raining yet again, even the treadmill can seem an attractive option. Memory loss works wonders.
When I am on it, I run much faster than when I am outdoors, a good 60s faster. I don't like it, but once a week or less I can put up with it if it makes me do that.
I read on some blog of someone from Alaska who got into the US marathon team having trained entirely on a treadmill.
My answer is talking books or the telly - but that's my answer to anything boring.
I live in a "up and coming" area of a city (no parks, intermittent pavements, fast traffic and bad lighting), and it will be dark most of the weekdays that I'm not in work for the next 6 months.
So i've hired a treadmill for the winter - cheaper than the gym and I can't really ignore it when it looks back at me in the morning....
I find that 3 x History of the World in 100 Objects or 1 x In Our Time = one tolerable treadmill session.
> I find that 3 x History of the World in 100 Objects or 1 x In Our Time = one tolerable treadmill session.
I'm currently working my way through the in our time science back catalogue as I run to work and back each day. It's top drawer!
I guess a treadmill is kinder on the joints?
Right. You're not selling it to me.
Splendid. I should go running more.
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