/ DMM alpha trad
I got some about 9 months ago and have never noticed it being an issue. I only have them on the rope end of the quickdraws though, with phantoms on the gear end (which I discovered last week are a proper faff with gloves on, the alpha trads were fine).
Hmmm, I've had phantoms and the Camp diddy ones on the gear end of my quickdraws and screamers all this winter and for clipping into ice screws at least and the odd bit of rock gear I've had no problems at all, and that's wearing BD Punishers or RAB Latoks mainly. They are a bit faffy as rope end ones though.
I'm probably just a cack-handed buffoon (as it sounds the OP might be :o )
I think you have raised a valid question. The Alpha Trad are a design that is highly optimised for one clipping action and as such it is unsurprising that they may have drawbacks in terms of more general handling.
I've not used them, but have a strong suspicion that they whilst some people will love them - they are new and shiny :-) - I think they will not find universal approval.
"The best orientation I find is to use thumb on the gate and fingers in the back bar."
what happens if the best way to place the draw is the other way around?
if the gear is off to the left of you then the normal way of orientating the rope end gate on a straight up climb would be gate facing left. Doesn't that make it rather awkward to clip with your thumb?
The way I rack my gear means I use my thumb to operate the gate to remove it from my harness. If I want to clip facing away I usually just twist my wrist, 9/10 times this works for me. On the rare occasion I have to change my grip much, I still find the shape easier to handle than a karabiner with a straight back bar.
In short, I like the shape and find it beneficial. I feel like I fumble less and its easier to grip, although other people won't necessarily think the same.
What's the point over heliums? Especially given that heliums and alpha trads are literally made on the same machines in the same room.
Yeah, but DMM secretly pee on all the Wild Country stuff before it leaves the factory
They are available in green ;-)
> Yeah, but DMM secretly pee on all the Wild Country stuff before it leaves the factory
Yea but it makes them harder like conkers
love them! easy to handle, light and good gate action. all in all a good draw
They're a good Krab/ QD
Only problem I've had is they scratch quite easily (for example on an BD Express) and so you have to be particularly careful to maintain a 'gear' end.
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