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Smallest lightest screwgate carabiner

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 Tall Clare 22 Apr 2013
Hello gear fans,

I'm looking for a really small, light screwgate carabiner. What's out there?

Thanks in advance.
 CurlyStevo 22 Apr 2013
In reply to Tall Clare:
The neons are nice i own 6 of these and have no complaints using them in summer and winter and I haven't noticed much functional difference to my older full size biners. The phantom screwgates are a bit lighter and smaller still but I've not used them and I imagine could be a bit more restrictive. Depends what you want them for really.
 Blue Straggler 22 Apr 2013
In reply to Tall Clare:

Someone was on the forums a couple of months back looking for such a thing for an aerialist friend. Might be worth searching for the thread...
softlad 22 Apr 2013
In reply to Tall Clare:

- WC Neon (43g) http://www.wildcountry.co.uk/products/screwgate-karabiners/neon-keylock-scr...

- DMM Phantom (41g) http://dmmclimbing.com/products/phantom-screwgate/

- Grivel Plume (37g) https://www.cotswoldoutdoor.com/grivel-plume-k3n-screwgate-karabiner-e31400...

I own all three and the Phantom is my favourite: it has great actions on both the gate and the barrel.
 Blue Straggler 22 Apr 2013
In reply to Blue Straggler:

I misremembered, the criteria there had been "steel" and "self locking"

http://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/t.php?t=531956&v=1#x7146957
 Camm 22 Apr 2013
In reply to Tall Clare:
DMM phantoms all the way! The DMM sentinel is better for getting clove hitches onto though. I belay with the sentinel but may have a look at the phantom. Also the phantom wire gate is brilliant.
 dutybooty 22 Apr 2013
In reply to Tall Clare: I use phantoms for things like Gri Gri and ascenders. Love them.
OP Tall Clare 22 Apr 2013
Thanks all.

I've had a look at the phantom and my word it's light - and that grivel one is ridiculously light!

I've had it pointed out to me that a screwgate probably isn't necessary for this particular use, so a phantom wiregate might be perfect.

 Aigen 22 Apr 2013
In reply to Tall Clare: And the winner is Climbing Technology AERIAL SG at 40g.
http://www.climbingtechnology.it/en-US/climbing/carabiner/aerial.html?idpro...
Grivel Plume (37 g): http://www.gocragging.com/Grivel_Plume_Nut_K3N_p/grivel_plume_k3n.htm
Climbing Technology Aerial SG (40 g): http://www.gocragging.com/Climbing_Technology_Aerial_SG_p/ct_aerial_sg.htm
Kong Argon (42 g): http://www.gocragging.com/Kong_Argon_S_p/kong_argon_s.htm

Bear in mind that going super light means almost certainly going for a T-profile small carabiner, meaning shorter lifespan.
J1234 23 Apr 2013
In reply to Tall Clare:
Are you going climbing?
OP Tall Clare 23 Apr 2013
In reply to sjc:

Why do you ask?
J1234 23 Apr 2013
In reply to Tall Clare:
Just you said on a thread the other day you had not climbed for 2 years and I just wondered if you were starting again.
OP Tall Clare 23 Apr 2013
In reply to sjc:

Oh, I've climbed on and off - I haven't given up entirely. As it happens this carabiner isn't for climbing, but that's by the by.
 tjin 23 Apr 2013
In reply to Aigen:
> (In reply to Tall Clare) And the winner is Climbing Technology AERIAL SG at 40g.
> http://www.climbingtechnology.it/en-US/climbing/carabiner/aerial.html?idpro...

I weighted mine and it is actually 42gram. (however it is bigger then the KONG argon which is also 42gram)
J1234 23 Apr 2013
In reply to Tall Clare: Okey dokey. Should still climb more, its ace
In reply to Tall Clare:

Phantoms are incredibly light and small, I bought half a dozen a year or two ago.

On reflection I wish I'd got all/ some Shadows though, as a bit bigger. The Phantoms can be too small to easily take a well wrapped-up long rigging sling, are a little too small to be easy to use with winter gloves on are IMO are limited to simple jobs like attaching a sling, rather than more space-taking rigging jobs.
 Aigen 23 Apr 2013
In reply to tjin: Sneaky Climbing Technology. I have some Edelrid Pure Screw. Weight 42g and they are bigger than the DMM Phantoms.

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