/ Smallest lightest screwgate carabiner

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Tall Clare - on 22 Apr 2013
Hello gear fans,

I'm looking for a really small, light screwgate carabiner. What's out there?

Thanks in advance.
CurlyStevo - on 22 Apr 2013
In reply to Tall Clare:
The neons are nice i own 6 of these and have no complaints using them in summer and winter and I haven't noticed much functional difference to my older full size biners. The phantom screwgates are a bit lighter and smaller still but I've not used them and I imagine could be a bit more restrictive. Depends what you want them for really.
Blue Straggler - on 22 Apr 2013
In reply to Tall Clare:

Someone was on the forums a couple of months back looking for such a thing for an aerialist friend. Might be worth searching for the thread...
softlad - on 22 Apr 2013
In reply to Tall Clare:

- WC Neon (43g) http://www.wildcountry.co.uk/products/screwgate-karabiners/neon-keylock-screwgate/

- DMM Phantom (41g) http://dmmclimbing.com/products/phantom-screwgate/

- Grivel Plume (37g) https://www.cotswoldoutdoor.com/grivel-plume-k3n-screwgate-karabiner-e3140091

I own all three and the Phantom is my favourite: it has great actions on both the gate and the barrel.
Blue Straggler - on 22 Apr 2013
In reply to Blue Straggler:

I misremembered, the criteria there had been "steel" and "self locking"

http://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/t.php?t=531956&v=1#x7146957
Camm on 22 Apr 2013
In reply to Tall Clare:
DMM phantoms all the way! The DMM sentinel is better for getting clove hitches onto though. I belay with the sentinel but may have a look at the phantom. Also the phantom wire gate is brilliant.
dutybooty - on 22 Apr 2013
In reply to Tall Clare: I use phantoms for things like Gri Gri and ascenders. Love them.
Tall Clare - on 22 Apr 2013
Thanks all.

I've had a look at the phantom and my word it's light - and that grivel one is ridiculously light!

I've had it pointed out to me that a screwgate probably isn't necessary for this particular use, so a phantom wiregate might be perfect.

cyberpunk - on 22 Apr 2013
In reply to Tall Clare: And the winner is Climbing Technology AERIAL SG at 40g.
http://www.climbingtechnology.it/en-US/climbing/carabiner/aerial.html?idproduct=580
Nicola Ciancaglini on 23 Apr 2013
Grivel Plume (37 g): http://www.gocragging.com/Grivel_Plume_Nut_K3N_p/grivel_plume_k3n.htm
Climbing Technology Aerial SG (40 g): http://www.gocragging.com/Climbing_Technology_Aerial_SG_p/ct_aerial_sg.htm
Kong Argon (42 g): http://www.gocragging.com/Kong_Argon_S_p/kong_argon_s.htm

Bear in mind that going super light means almost certainly going for a T-profile small carabiner, meaning shorter lifespan.
Que Sera Sera on 23 Apr 2013
In reply to Tall Clare:
Are you going climbing?
Tall Clare - on 23 Apr 2013
In reply to sjc:

Why do you ask?
Que Sera Sera on 23 Apr 2013
In reply to Tall Clare:
Just you said on a thread the other day you had not climbed for 2 years and I just wondered if you were starting again.
Tall Clare - on 23 Apr 2013
In reply to sjc:

Oh, I've climbed on and off - I haven't given up entirely. As it happens this carabiner isn't for climbing, but that's by the by.
tjin - on 23 Apr 2013
In reply to cyberpunk:
> (In reply to Tall Clare) And the winner is Climbing Technology AERIAL SG at 40g.
> http://www.climbingtechnology.it/en-US/climbing/carabiner/aerial.html?idproduct=580

I weighted mine and it is actually 42gram. (however it is bigger then the KONG argon which is also 42gram)
Que Sera Sera on 23 Apr 2013
In reply to Tall Clare: Okey dokey. Should still climb more, its ace
fairweatherclimber - on 23 Apr 2013
In reply to Tall Clare:

Phantoms are incredibly light and small, I bought half a dozen a year or two ago.

On reflection I wish I'd got all/ some Shadows though, as a bit bigger. The Phantoms can be too small to easily take a well wrapped-up long rigging sling, are a little too small to be easy to use with winter gloves on are IMO are limited to simple jobs like attaching a sling, rather than more space-taking rigging jobs.
cyberpunk - on 23 Apr 2013
In reply to tjin: Sneaky Climbing Technology. I have some Edelrid Pure Screw. Weight 42g and they are bigger than the DMM Phantoms.
cyberpunk - on 29 Apr 2013

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