/ Trashy films that are great

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The Lemming - on 26 Apr 2013
One rule, no Chick Flicks.
TheDrunkenBakers - on 26 Apr 2013
In reply to The Lemming:
> One rule, no Chick Flicks.

Thats a bit limiting then isnt it?
Ann S on 26 Apr 2013
In reply to The Lemming:

Anything with Steven Segal in a boat or a train.
BoulderyDave - on 26 Apr 2013
In reply to The Lemming: planet terror - pure gold
wilkie14c - on 26 Apr 2013
In reply to The Lemming:
Dog Soldiers
Rita, Sue and Bob too
Sightseers <had its own thread this week>
phildavies84 - on 26 Apr 2013
In reply to The Lemming: Iron Sky :)
john arran - on 26 Apr 2013
In reply to The Lemming:

Starship Troopers
Bulls Crack - on 26 Apr 2013
In reply to The Lemming:

Cliffhanger of course! If only for Janine Turner......
ice.solo - on 26 Apr 2013
In reply to The Lemming:

the lost boys
MFB - on 26 Apr 2013
In reply to The Lemming:

Tremors
Blue Straggler - on 26 Apr 2013
In reply to The Lemming:

Wild Things
Blue Straggler - on 26 Apr 2013
In reply to The Lemming:

Into the Blue
Deviant - on 26 Apr 2013
In reply to The Lemming:

David DeCoteau's "Leeches".

It's certainly not a Chick Flick ! All those fit guys in Speedos-drool !
The Lemming - on 26 Apr 2013
In reply to Deviant:

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> It's certainly not a Chick Flick ! All those fit guys in Speedos-drool !

For you, I'll make an exception

No devient pervy flicks.

:-)

ITS on 27 Apr 2013
In reply to The Lemming: Dark Star. Mind you, that's classic dark comedy, not trashy. Mind you, it might be trashy by someone's standards.
thermal_t - on 27 Apr 2013
In reply to The Lemming: Event Horizon
mark s - on 27 Apr 2013
In reply to phildavies84:
> (In reply to The Lemming) Iron Sky :)


i was going to say this,saw it on lovefilm and thought it was really funny in places
Baron Weasel - on 27 Apr 2013
In reply to The Lemming: A boy and his dog.

Had never heard of it until I watched it recently on Netflix. Seriously messed up - but well worth watching!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Boy_and_His_Dog

BW
monkeymark - on 27 Apr 2013
In reply to The Lemming:

Tank Girl. Strangely watchable but truly sh*t.
mbambi - on 27 Apr 2013
In reply to The Lemming: Spun, though raw might be a better description than trashy, complete with Debbie Harry!
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Tom V - on 27 Apr 2013
In reply to The Lemming:

Razorback.
That Dicko is some boy.
paul-1970 - on 27 Apr 2013
In reply to The Lemming:

Thom Tuck's 'Straight to DVD' on R4 is great listening if you like your 'so bad it's good films'.

'Can't stop the Music' - the Village People film, is a wonderful woefully bad film.
bonzka - on 27 Apr 2013
In reply to The Lemming:

Taken
Money Train
Kickboxer (Most things Van Damme)
andymac - on 27 Apr 2013
In reply to The Lemming:

When Rocco went to Warsaw
Blue Straggler - on 30 Apr 2013
In reply to The Lemming:
Not Lockout starring Guy Pearce. I don't know if it's trying to be clever and tongue-in-cheek, but if so, then it needed more obvious humour. I think it's just a bad low-grade sci-fi B-movie. Not sure why Pearce signed up for it. Imagine The Core but far far less fun.
Durbs on 30 Apr 2013
In reply to The Lemming:

Machete.

Properly trashy (on purpose)
davidbeynon - on 30 Apr 2013
In reply to The Lemming:

Hard ticket to Hawaii.

As trashy as it gets.
Al Evans on 30 Apr 2013
In reply to davidbeynon: The Great Dictator (Charlie Chaplin)
daveyw - on 30 Apr 2013
In reply to The Lemming:
Roadhouse ticks all the boxes- 80's fashion, bar fights, little town bad guy, zen nonsense and Swayze. Oh and one more thing, it IS great
ripper - on 30 Apr 2013
In reply to The Lemming: amazed nobody's said The Matrix yet...
Needkraken - on 30 Apr 2013
In reply to phildavies84:
> (In reply to The Lemming) Iron Sky :)

Yes, yes! Saw a screening of it when it first came out and the whole cinema was packed of people laughing so hard it hurts!
Blue Straggler - on 30 Apr 2013
In reply to Al Evans:
> (In reply to davidbeynon) The Great Dictator (Charlie Chaplin)

TRASHY Al?
3leggeddog on 30 Apr 2013
In reply to Tom V:
> (In reply to The Lemming)
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> Razorback.
> That Dicko is some boy.

Oh yes!

Add to the list Hell comes to Frogtown and Con Air
Al Evans on 30 Apr 2013
In reply to Blue Straggler:
> (In reply to Al Evans)
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> TRASHY Al?

So a lot of critics called it at the time, it was widely regarded as Chaplins worst ever film, mawkish and propagandist. personally I think it's one of his best ever, even the supposed cringy speech that is the climax of the film!
drmarten on 30 Apr 2013
Got to agree with Starship Troopers and Machete and last night I watched Battleship for the second time, real guff but I love the bit where they take the USS Missouri back to sea (aye right) to the tune of Thunderstruck by AC/DC. I think it must have been made tongue in cheek, I hope it was anyway.
Babika - on 30 Apr 2013
In reply to The Lemming:
Snakes on a Plane
The Lemming - on 30 Apr 2013
In reply to Babika:

I know it does what it says on the tin, but I have never been tempted to watch that film simply by the fact that it sounds so wrong.
Babika - on 30 Apr 2013
In reply to The Lemming:

Oh you must!

You won't ever want to sit down on an airline loo again...

And the immortal Samuel L Jackson line: "Enough is enough. Let's get these motherf$%^%ing snakes off this motherf*&%$ing plane"
Blue Straggler - on 30 Apr 2013
In reply to Al Evans:


Thanks for elaborating! Yes I think I did know that once but then forgot.
I also think that I am over-interpreting "trashy" here as meaning films that never have or pretend to have any lofty ambitions
Gordon Stainforth - on 30 Apr 2013
In reply to Al Evans:
> (In reply to Blue Straggler)
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> So a lot of critics called it at the time, it was widely regarded as Chaplins worst ever film, mawkish and propagandist. personally I think it's one of his best ever, even the supposed cringy speech that is the climax of the film!

Yes, the power of the final speech lies in the fact that, at that point, Chaplin suddenly becomes serious. It's very effective.
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cb294 - on 30 Apr 2013
In reply to The Lemming:

Iron Sky+1.

Also, Godzilla (size matters, and if you can scale your monster up and down an order of magnitude for dramatic effect, even better), and Les Visiteurs.

CB
Offwidth - on 30 Apr 2013
In reply to The Lemming:

That's a silly rule.

Also its a hard enough category as it is as great cheap films are out but what about silly great cheap films like Dark Star. I think Van Damme made a career out of good but trashy violent movies; Segal was much more variable (good trash and shite trash). Great moveis about trashy people also wouldnt count. hence I'm struggling with a great trashy movie and not convinced by many offerings above. Is Clueless or Heathers far enough from a chickflick? Flash Gordon, Pricilla, Strictly Ballroom all too camp and knowing?
Jus - on 30 Apr 2013
In reply to Babika:

Agree with Snakes on a Plane!

Also Speed.
Father Noel Furlong on 30 Apr 2013
In reply to The Lemming:

Sucker Punch anyone?
Blue Straggler - on 30 Apr 2013
In reply to Offwidth:

You are thinking along my lines. The definition is necessarily narrow. Clueless and Heathers are too smart to be trashy. Flash Gordon etc - your point stands.

I think we should be looking at non-ambitious popcorn flicks that turned out better than anyone might expect. Formulaic thrillers never destined to win Oscars or to even be remembered in a year's time, but which nonetheless had a quality to them.

Tremors is out - too camp and knowing.
Universal Soldier is in.
Wild Things as suggested by me is out - again too knowing.
Into the Blue stays.
The lesser offerings from Walter Hill's oeuvre get to stay - Johnny Handsome, Undisputed etc. Not Red Heat (it's rubbish and it was trying hard) and not Streets of Fire as that had proper ambitions.
Machete and Planet Terror etc are out.


Flowers in the Attic is in.
The Hand that Rocks the Cradle possibly wins it :-)
Blue Straggler - on 30 Apr 2013
In reply to Jus:

Speed is a good call.

"There's a bomb ON THE BUS"
Jus - on 30 Apr 2013
In reply to Blue Straggler:

Yes to Universal Soldier!

Point Break is one of my favourites too.

Offwidth - on 30 Apr 2013
In reply to Blue Straggler:

Been thinking:

Bad Taste must be up there with the best.

a few close runners also:

Demolition Man
Plan 9 from Outer Space (Ed Wood has to be there)
Earth Girls are Easy
Death race 2000 (pipping Roller Ball)
Porkies
Animal House
Texas Chainsaw

If you are OCD with the Title (this might hurt those with delicate sensibilities):

Pink Flamingoes
Nath93 - on 30 Apr 2013
In reply to The Lemming: Red Heat.
John_Hat - on 30 Apr 2013
In reply to mark s:
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> i was going to say this,saw it on lovefilm and thought it was really funny in places

It's not trashy, its cult!
ripper - on 30 Apr 2013
In reply to Offwidth:
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> Death race 2000 (pipping Roller Ball)
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I'm sure I've read that DR2000 (the original, obviously) was meant as a spoof of films like Rollerball, which took itself very seriously indeed.

Blue Straggler - on 01 May 2013
In reply to Jus:
> (In reply to Blue Straggler)
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> Yes to Universal Soldier!
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> Point Break is one of my favourites too.

I love Point Break but it is not trash IMHO. It has some lofty ambitions...they may not come off, but it's not Speed or Universal Soldier
Blue Straggler - on 01 May 2013
In reply to Offwidth:
> (In reply to Blue Straggler)
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> Been thinking:
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> Bad Taste must be up there with the best.
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> a few close runners also:
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> Demolition Man
I considered it. Not sure. It is high budget high concept stuff. Ultimately trash, but has pretension. Nigel Hawthorne!

> Plan 9 from Outer Space (Ed Wood has to be there)
No. I've seen it, it is not "great" at all.

> Earth Girls are Easy
Maybe, or is it too "knowing"?

> Death race 2000 (pipping Roller Ball)
Probably though it is all quite deliberate and knowing. How about the 1976 "Gumball Rally"?

> Porkies
Trash but not great.

> Animal House
Probably

> Texas Chainsaw
Yes
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> If you are OCD with the Title (this might hurt those with delicate sensibilities):
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> Pink Flamingoes

No. Deliberately "cult" like Machete etc.

davidbeynon - on 01 May 2013
In reply to The Lemming:

The Salute of the Jugger

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094764/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

Bloody awful film, but simultaneously quite awesome. I blame Rutger Hauer.
Blue Straggler - on 01 May 2013
In reply to davidbeynon:

Ah the young Joan Chen...

For some reason I managed to wait 20 years to see that. Inevitably it was a let down!
Blue Straggler - on 01 May 2013
In reply to Blue Straggler:
> Inevitably it was a let down!

Though as davidbeynon suggests - yes somehow good too! And trashy. It totally qualifies

Clarence - on 01 May 2013
In reply to The Lemming:

Arnie is the king of good but trashy...

Commando - "I've cott to sayyve Chenny!"
Total Recall - "consider that a divorce!"
Conan the Barbarian - "the riddle of steel!"
Blue Straggler - on 01 May 2013
In reply to The Lemming:

Hot Pursuit starring John Cusack and a young Ben Stiller. Bizarrely it was directed by Steven Lisberger as his next film after Tron! "Great" would be pushing it, but it is just a bit of fun which somehow endures. Helped by Robert Loggia's performance.
Al Evans on 01 May 2013
In reply to Blue Straggler: What about Easy Rider and Clockwork Orange, both cheap but a great end result.
Blue Straggler - on 01 May 2013
In reply to Al Evans:

Not by my rules. They both had lofty ambitions and were built to last.
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Blue Straggler - on 01 May 2013
In reply to The Lemming:

A fair number of Roger Corman's films qualify.

e.g. A Bucket of Blood
davidbeynon - on 01 May 2013
In reply to The Lemming: I submit "The Long Ships"

Who shall ride the mare of steel?
Blue Straggler - on 01 May 2013
In reply to davidbeynon:

Prince based his entire look on Sidney Poitier's wardrobe in The Long Ships.
davidbeynon - on 01 May 2013
In reply to Blue Straggler: Prince shall ride the mare of steel!
kingjam - on 01 May 2013
In reply to The Lemming:

They Live , its a classic
Sam Simpson - on 01 May 2013
In reply to kingjam: They live- what a movie, 2 of the the best scenes i have ever scene, the line when he walks into the bank, and the wrestle!!
MJ - on 01 May 2013
benallan on 01 May 2013
In reply to The Lemming:

The best worst film ever made - 'The Room'.

The full movie is on Youtube.

'She is lying, I did not hit her, I did naaaaat, Oh hi Mark'
Clarence - on 01 May 2013
In reply to The Lemming:

I nearly forgot about one I watched inadvertently last night, Mazes and Monsters starring a very young Tom Hanks. It is like an extended Colombo episode crossed with a Jack Chick tract and definitely put me off playing those nasty Role Playing Games for life, oh yes sir!
graeme jackson - on 01 May 2013
In reply to Clarence:
> Conan the Barbarian - "the riddle of steel!"

Conan 2. "does nothing ever hurt you conan?"..... "Only pain".
benallan on 01 May 2013
In reply to The Lemming:

Vamp
benallan on 01 May 2013
In reply to The Lemming:

Bachelor Party
Blue Straggler - on 01 May 2013
In reply to graeme jackson:

Is that the one where at the end he turns his back on the princess and starts walking away from her proposition, then pauses to turn, she gets her hopes up, and it turns out he was just deciding to walk out of a different door? :-)

I think Red Sonja is the best trash out of all that lot...it has an annoying kid and a fat bumbly comedy sidekick
Blue Straggler - on 01 May 2013
In reply to benallan:
> (In reply to The Lemming)
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> Vamp

Good call! Dedee!
Rosco P Coltrane - on 01 May 2013
In reply to The Lemming:

TeenWolf
Highlander 2
Smokey and The Bandit
Flatus Vetus - on 01 May 2013
In reply to The Lemming:

Freddy Got Fingered, possibly Tom Green's finest work.
Blue Straggler - on 01 May 2013
In reply to The Lemming:

Anaconda?
benallan on 01 May 2013
In reply to Blue Straggler:
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> Good call! Dedee!

Ooh yeah!


Has nobody else seen The Room? It is absolutely awful, but brilliant!

Check out the best bits:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=if5eP3crl_4

Blue Straggler - on 02 May 2013
In reply to The Lemming:


With thanks to TheNewNickB:

Escape to Victory!
Blue Straggler - on 02 May 2013
In reply to The Lemming:

Krull
Brooklyn's Finest
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Offwidth - on 02 May 2013
In reply to Rosco P Coltrane:

I forgot Highlander! No self knowing there. Subsequent Highlanders were far from great.
Offwidth - on 02 May 2013
In reply to Offwidth:


...unlike Big Trouble in Little China, Esacape from New York, Planet of the Apes and similarly fun big-budget winking guff.
Blue Straggler - on 02 May 2013
A lot of Ken Russell's post-Tommy output might qualify...or is it too "knowing"? I am thinking mostly of "Gothic" :-)
lorentz - on 02 May 2013
In reply to The Lemming:

The recent remake of The Sweeney. A film by the numbers but rendered totally watchable for Ray Winstone calling villains "Slaaaaaag" and pronouncing them "nicked." And also for resurrecting a couple moments from his earlier cult lead as Carling in Scum. Plan B's alright in it also. Worth a watch. Bad, but good.
Blue Straggler - on 02 May 2013
In reply to lorentz:

I have not seen it but when I saw the trailer I kind of reached the same conclusion that you have. Might catch it on DVD.
lorentz - on 02 May 2013
In reply to Blue Straggler:

Aye... Definitely one for a night in.
Offwidth - on 02 May 2013
In reply to Blue Straggler:

It is oddly bad. I cringed at times and I enjoyed the TV series as a youth(although I'd admit it hasn't aged well).
zumasie - on 02 May 2013
In reply to The Lemming:

Showgirls.
cb294 - on 02 May 2013
In reply to The Lemming:

Surprised no one yet (myself included) mentioned the great alpine classics:

Vertical Limit and Cliffhanger

Hard to say which one is more trashy, but both are quite entertaining.

FWIW running up some Dolomites mountain faster than a helicopter flies beats jumping cam placements.

CB
Blue Straggler - on 02 May 2013
In reply to The Lemming:

Space Truckers (again maybe too "knowing")
Blue Straggler - on 02 May 2013
In reply to The Lemming:

Battle Beyond the Stars!
ripper - on 02 May 2013
In reply to The Lemming:
Enter the Dragon!
David Barratt - on 02 May 2013
In reply to The Lemming: I watched a film called 'Ice Spiders' the other day. The general plot involves genetically modified super spiders from a secret goverment research lab based next to a ski resort... they escape and carnage ensues. throw in the 90's cringe and bad acting, I wanted to switch off but for some reasome I saw it through.
Carless - on 02 May 2013
In reply to The Lemming:

Anyone mentioned Con Air?
davidbeynon - on 02 May 2013
In reply to David Barratt:

I just watched the trailer for that on youtube. It looks awful!

I approve.
Blue Straggler - on 02 May 2013
In reply to davidbeynon:

Sy-Fy films don't count, surely? They are deliberately trashy to try to get a cult following, and barely any are "great"!
davidbeynon - on 02 May 2013
In reply to Blue Straggler:

I quite like things that are just awful without being great, but you are right. It is outside the scope of this thread.
cb294 - on 02 May 2013
In reply to David Barratt:

Good call!

CB
dek - on 02 May 2013
In reply to Blue Straggler:
> (In reply to davidbeynon)
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> Sy-Fy films don't count, surely? They are deliberately trashy to try to get a cult following, and barely any are "great"!

Sir, i give you..... Barbarella.
Skol on 02 May 2013
In reply to dek:
Dog Soldiers
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Al Evans on 02 May 2013
In reply to dek:
> (In reply to Blue Straggler)
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> Sir, i give you..... Barbarella.

Things with Jane Fonda in (scarcely clothed) are not trashy.
dek - on 02 May 2013
In reply to Al Evans:
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> Things with Jane Fonda in (scarcely clothed) are not trashy.
Then? Defo!...... Now?..... Okay Al, you like your 'Gilfs'...:-)

Blue Straggler - on 02 May 2013
In reply to dek:

Hi dek. No, there is a channel / production company called "Sy-Fy". I didn't mean "sci-fi"!
andymac - on 02 May 2013
In reply to The Lemming:

Was trying to remember the name of a film.

one scene that sticks out involves 2 'right characters' stopping to buy some chickens from a backwater smallholder.

Smallholder (with that Dingle look about him) ,becomes concerned about his 2 customers motives for buying the chickens,asks;
"Now you fellas arnt thinking of f**king these chickens?".

Mad film.
Blue Straggler - on 02 May 2013
Polish 80s dystopian sci-fi exploitation satire/allegory "The Sex Mission"
Dave Garnett - on 02 May 2013
In reply to john arran:
> (In reply to The Lemming)
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> Starship Troopers

You may be right. I would have said it unutterably crap but then I accidentally caught Starship Troopers 2; Hero of the Federation late one night recently. By comparison the original is a work of subtlety and genius.

Anyway my offering would be Pitch Black.
Richiehill - on 21 May 2013
In reply to The Lemming:

Worst films I've ever seen:

Mid 80's Murphy's Law staring Peter O'Toole; Doomsday - the only redeemable feature is that I got to stare at Rohna Mitra for an hour and a half (God She's Gorgeous); Superbabies 2 - Don't remember why I watched it but good god it was awful; Spring Breakers - watched it with the missus because I saw boobs on the advert, thought it'd be a kind of "hangover" type film, turned out it was just dog turd that doesn't have a plot and most of it glorifies the "gangster" rap culture, something that I believe to be one of the route causes of evil in the world and (saving the best to last): Disaster Movie - I quite like spoofs but this was just properly sh*t.

Trashy films:

Think most have been said.

Any Segal film; Battleship (although I don't think it was meant to be trashy); Godzilla, Starship Troopers, A lot of Tarantino directed films and Mad Max!
David Martin - on 21 May 2013
In reply to The Lemming:

Made for TV, but Garth Marenghi's "Dark Place"...intentionally trashy and brilliantly so.
ena sharples - on 25 May 2013
In reply to The Lemming: Beyond the Bermuda triangle-jesus wept.

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