/ Piz Badile current conditions
probably cold wet and frozen higher up. its usually ok from about early july onwards. theres an article on ukc somewhere about the route and best time to do it. its not somewhere you would want to get stuck in bad weather, best left till later in the season. also the descent is not easy whichever way you pick, we climbed the cassin and descended by the south face to the gianetti rather than abbing the ridge- it was pretty straight forward but the walk back shouldnt be underestimated (especially if the weather isnt settled as the passes would be evil to descend in the wet...)
Today it is soaking, with light persistent rain in the Engadine. The weather for the next week is forecast to be similar.
While I've met someone who has done the ridge in winter, I suspect conditions over the next while will be horrible, neither summer nor winter, so lashings of rain, sleet and snow.
Sorry not to be able to provide more heartening information but I hope this helps.
im incredibly sorry my answer was so poor and want to apologize unreservedly for my lacking answer. rest assured i will never under any circumstances off such dreadfully cack advice in the future. in fact im probably going to shoot myself now.
His first language is not English and he was making an honest inquiry about conditions on a route - no need for sarcasm.
I'll p.m. you
For an evidently accomplished alpinist and mountaineer, your reply is childish at best. You gave general advice which is fantastic, but the following poster gave current conditions, which was more relevant to the OP's question.
Maybe time to put that dummy back in?
Then learn how to live without it?
Past week the isotherme has been around 3000m with unsettled weather on most of Alps. I suppose anything south facing with altitude of 2500m will be ok on rock if the weather turns good. Snow or ice climbs higher up should be fine, too.
I've been reading the forecasts lately since we've got flights to Milan on May 15th but we haven't decided on the final destination.
chill out, tongue in cheek etc- see your from glenrothes, thought youd need a sense of humour living there! (im from fife as well...)
Thanks! Very good information.
On the top of my mind the best options I can think of are Torre Venezia near Civetta, Valle del Orco and Val di Mello. Perhaps Mont Aiguille, Wetterstein and Rätikön, too, if it's bad weather closer by.
Final selection should depend on the conditions of three last days prior to the trip.
Our plan F is Calanques. It's only about 5 hour drive. :-)
at Finale. Great place to stay/eat right opposite called A Ca De Alice, a real climbers' hang out.
Another hot tip for the Italian riviera is Muzzerone a spectacular 300m marble sea cliff near La Spezia
Thanks for the Muzzerone tip. Before I knew there was some multipitch there but now I found a topo for it. Plenty of pictures on Google, too, if you search Muzzerone Pareti Striale.
In addition to Brig Pianarella there's a wall called Rocca dell Ulivo near Finale. There are three overhanging routes there with the easiest being 6c if I remember right. It's on the guidebook for surronding area and I was there a couple of years ago.
Do you know anything about the climbing in between Orco and Finale? There seems to be one guidebook by Versante Sud but other than that not much info. Any walls of 200m or more there?
Is there anything between Valle dell'Orco and Finale! Where to start!
Forgetting about the low-level stuff, here are some of the best spots:
Classic and multi-pitch sport routes on Monviso round Rifugio Giacoletti: http://www.giacoletti.it/
Great classic and sport routes in Val Maira: Rocca Provenzale/Rocca Castello/Rocca la Meija
The glorious Corno Stella! (spur of the Argentera massif) http://www.rifugiobozano.it/
Fantastic limestone multipitch (mostly pretty difficult) round the Mongoie refuge: http://www.rifugio-mongioie.com/arrampicata.html
loads of topos for most of the abover here: http://www.cuneoclimbing.it/multipitch
Guidebooks here: http://www.versantesud.it/index.html
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