/ Swiss Alps guidebooks, are they worth it?
So it got me thinking. Is it actually worth us having a guidebook? Would they give us anything extra that you cant find on the internet?
The only guidebook I've seen that may be suitable is the Swiss Plaisir Alpin book. Anyone got a copy? Any good?
I do have a copy of it. Lots of easy stuff in it. It's very good. However it is rather expensive. Lots of nice phototopos and up-to-date detail (which is a major failing of most of the AC guidebooks).
I'm tempted to say that if you've done your research, then a guidebook probably isn't needed. However they're nice to read.
indeed the AC Valais Alps east is hard to get and apparently has poor route descriptions. Howvere the valais alps east (AC) is easy to get online on in bookstores. Its a good guidebook in my opinion. True you can find lots of information of particular routes online but what happens when you get out there and you change your mind, maybe weather, a recommendation, tiredness. A guidebook gives your freedom while you're out there.
Isn't that mostly about bolted rock routes, rather than Alpine routes?
Martin Moran is very good, but as you say, 4000m peak oriented (the clue is in the title!). There certainly are a great many worthwhile routes/mountains in the Alps that are not 4000m but give a great mountain day out, especially at this time of year.
Does require you to have some idea of what you want to do, as generally you can look up the routes you are interested in, but it has recent detailed descriptions of ascents, so is very current and informative (as informative as people care to make it that is).
Bear in mind that alpine climbing demands route finding skills and.guidebooks often only make perfect sense after the.route.!
Very true. But the grades, times, route specifics need to be taken with a lorryload of de-icer.
Second camptocamp. Great source of info, does auto translate which is understandable most of the time. Once you've worked out roughly what mountains and routes you want to do most of the information is probably available there.
You get used to it. Persist, it is worth it.
Understandable. My French is reasonable but it is quite often very colloquial/specialist - fortunately I have a partner who has lived in France for 15 years who can read it quite well now.
Produces some "interesting" results, to say the least.
I was thinking of suggesting to UKC site developers that they produce a similar facility. Maybe I will.
I've got the Plaisir Alpin, I find it most useful for the less well-known easy climbs in the eastern part of Switzerland.
The list of mountains it covers, with almost always just the normal routes described, is on the publisher's web page: http://www.filidor.ch/Pages/Book.aspx?Id=17.
For each route it gives a very short route description in French, German and English (in place of Italian) in the 2008 print, plus a rough map and a picture or photo of the route.
I would hesitate to recommend it just for one trip to the Valais, but looking at the list of mountains on the website will give you a useful list of the easier possibilities. But speaking from experience, surely there is something better for acclimatisation than the Stellihorn!
Note that Swiss maps are on-line here: http://map.geo.admin.ch/
There's another site better to print maps from, but I don't find it right now.
Bouquestin traverse was good and accurate as was S ridge of dent blanche, l'eveque, grand cornier, pigne ord, traverse of cheilon.
had trouble just getting to the hut in an obscure part of the valpelline...
heard good reports and reasonable time on the sunrise pillar of the eveque. failed on the weber pillar on the dent blanche but has fallen off and I've not heard of UK teams on the trickier routes on that hill at all.
Cool area as allways the more info the better!
Getting local up to date info is well worth it - conditions change dramatically through the season with some routes going from very snowy to totally dry. E-mail local guides/huts/etc in advance and ask guardians when you phone to book huts.
You can purchase online from the BMC.
Pigne, Chelion, Tsa, Zinal Rothorn N ridge,
Hohlaubgrat, Weissmies traverse and Fletschorn normal routes all accurate.
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