/ Short Half Ropes??
I'm looking for a 35m half rope pair, not too fussed about treatment and slightly harder wearing than thinner is preferrable. Thinking about investing for single pitch cragging and to save my GoldenDry Beals for winter/long multipitches (it's also a faff pulling up 60m of rope on 10m routes and even more faff to keep (un)coiling).
Does anyone know if/where I could get some?? (The closest I've seen are the 30m Beal Icelines from needlesports...) And before anyone suggests it, I'm not a fan of folding over a long single - it seems to be a recipe for rope spaghetti on route!!
Buy a half and get the shop to chop it with the hot knife ?
2 x 25m a bit on the short side even for SP cragging, if you think about bigger crags and anchors well back.
Maybe look for a bi-pattern rope from (I think) Beal. stops ropes being the same colour
Agree regarding folding, seems like a good idea, but two ropes are much better.
Then why not chop a 70m and then you've got a 35m length ? They don't only make them in 50m lengths.
This may just be terminology problems but twin ropes and half ropes are different and used for different purposes. You shouldn't chop a long half rope and use it as twin ropes.
I agree that two 35-m half ropes (of different colours) are really useful for grit and other short cragging, much reducing faff and saving wear on ones longer ropes.
Outside in Hathersage used to do 35m "Infinity" ropes for this purpose, but don't now. Does this mean there is too little demand for them?
Left and Right (as opposed to colours) is easy to deal with in practice if you fold a rope, it works fine.
If you email the guys over at beta climbing, who import Sterling ropes they can get you a set of 35m duetto's. Great ropes, really pleased with mine.
You are the first to have mentioned twin ropes though.
It works, yes, but it's significantly harder than different colours and significantly easier for the belayer to mistake which rope.
I can only speak from my experience and I've done it a fair bit. It's never been a problem for me on either end of the rope. I guess plenty of folk have trouble with Left and Right so experiences may differ.
You just tug the one you want, same as when you can't hear or see each other clearly, it still works fine.
But a good belayer will anticipate that the leader is about to clip some gear, and pay out slack. Waiting for a rope to be tugged, and then paying some out is less optimal.
Thanks to everyone for their suggestions: I'm in touch with several distributors to get quotes; bicolor/Duodess/DuoTec/ACR, etc. half ropes are really quite tricky to get hold of (plenty in the 9.5-10.5 single rope category) and ironically the cheapest way so far seems to be to be to buy the cheapest set of 50m halves and cut them down...seems a waste, but a lot of companies don't seem to make 35m halves!!
> Thanks to everyone for their suggestions: I'm in touch with several distributors to get quotes; bicolor/Duodess/DuoTec/ACR, etc. half ropes are really quite tricky to get hold of (plenty in the 9.5-10.5 single rope category) and ironically the cheapest way so far seems to be to be to buy the cheapest set of 50m halves and cut them down...seems a waste, but a lot of companies don't seem to make 35m halves!!
A matching pair of 35m halves of different colours would be very useful. I'd be interested in whatever you can find out. I'd consider sharing the cost of two 70m cut in half, although that length is probably hard to find in halves too.
My reply was to log dog who mentioned it being cheaper than buying twins.
Would have taken less time to look than it did to type your reply.
Beal do the Joker rope in 35 (and 70) metre lengths. The 35m is sold as the Scrambler but is exactly the same as the longer lengths. 9.1mm and satisfies the criteria for single, half or twin tope. You might have to shop around to find the Scrambler in two different colours though.
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