/ Horse muck on cycle paths
How hard can it be to get off the horse, and kick the muck to the side of the path. A horse-y friend of mine claimed that it isn't always safe to get off the horse mid-ride, and may not be able to remount. Then surely, if that's the case the animal shouldn't be out of the yard if it is not safe.
I know..why cant they just scoop it into bags and hang it off branches like dog owners..it's not rocket surgery...
Can't say it really bothers me that much.... it's mainly fermented grass anyway, and much better than dog sh@t
> and much better than dog sh@t
It is a little better than dog poop, yes. Still no justification as to why i should get it in the face and on my bike though.
do you even have a bell?
Can't say it bothers me at all. If I'm on an off road section then it's par for the course as are puddles and mud. Mind you, I am a city dweller and the road side cycle paths of Manchester rarely attract horse muck, more glass and syringes.
Slow down and get yourself a decent set of mudguards then you silly boy :-)
> Can't say it bothers me at all. If I'm on an off road section then it's par for the course as are puddles and mud. Mind you, I am a city dweller and the road side cycle paths of Manchester rarely attract horse muck, more glass and syringes.
I cycle from the country to the city and back again each day. I much prefer the effects of a nice bit of muck that of the glass and syringes.
"In reply to malk: Im guessing you mean smell? If so, yes I do and I really don't care that it does not smell as nasty. That is no justifiation as to why i should expectt it being sprayed onto me, or my bike/clothing."
I'm a cyclist and a horse rider. I can see both points of view. When I'm riding, I get bloody annoyed by cyclists screaming past me on downhill sections and spooking out my horse.
When I'm on my bike a get a bit annoyed if they are horses side by side on small byways.
In most cases, we generally respect each others space. As for the muck issue, I tend to just go around it - its not that hard, and its better than being splatted with dog sh*t which is deeply unpleasant. And its not just horses that take a dump on byways, other animals do to... at least with a horse, you can spot what your about to go through:)
As for jumping off your horse to kick the muck out of the way - its not that simple when your on an animal that is over 16 hands high as its not that easy to get back on...
What I find offensive, if great big gobbets of spit all over the place, but that's another argument
Oh and another thing, when did these pathways become "cycle" ways?
Never ever ever had this in my experience. And I don't always ride in Manchester, I do a lot in the Peak District and out in the Pennines so I come across a lot of horse riders. Not quite sure whether you are placing a negative interpretation on someone who is inevitably hovering a few feet above you by the very nature of the beast they are riding!
As a horse rider and cyclist there is as usual the odd intolerant idiot on both sides of the equation.....simple courtesy goes a long way! It is quite difficult when aggressive mountain bikers come by at high speed s a horse isn't the most predictable of beasts and are geneticly loaded to spook and bolt.....but likewise I've seen people on horses not considering that cyclists or walkers etc may not be too confident with their horses coming close..
I would suggest that cleaning up after your animal falls into that category.
If so, you clearly have a point.
I find horse riders round my way to be the least courteous users of shared paths. If someone out for a run in shorts stepped out of my way into nettles I would thank them, not give them a look suggesting they're muck on my boots.
On the plus side at least the trail bike riding yoof scum on the bridlesways and cyclesways get to annoy someone else more than me...
Only one thing to remember, also useful for cow pats and flying insects,
Keep your mouth closed!
I think you'll find your horse is not 17'3 " or almost 3 times the height of the average man.
Horses are measured in hands, not feet you ignoramus. Even I know that much.
Measured in feet, the horse is 5'11. (That bit I had to look up on wikipedia.)
17 hands not 17 foot, although perhaps he shouldn't be riding a horse he cannot get on or off.
"Horse muck on cycle paths"?
Well, you know. Dry your tears and get on with it, eh?
Just arrived tonight at my sisters farm who have several heavy horses,sheep, and a donkey.
(If you get in the way of these horses on a bike you will know all about it!)
I agree it is an addiction, dishevelled, yes, grubby, yes, spend all spre money on carts, and shows, yes , but can't say I notice any horsey smell at all.
Bridleways being for use by walkers, and horse riders. Bicycles have been 'allowed' to use bridleways under the Countryside Act 1968 but are in fact the lowest class of user. They have to give way to walkers and horse riders and the surface does not have to be made to their requirement either (they take it as it is). They cannot even claim a bridleway according to usage.
Thats just the legal spiel on bridleways - being a Rights of Way Officer, a mountain biker and occasional horse rider, I have to take the above as it is, but i see your point about 'fouling' the highway. You wouldn't accept this from any other user of highways so should something be done or is it just a generally accepted thing that horses are badass and so they can do what the hell they want... who's gonna mess with them??!
> 17 hands not 17 foot, although perhaps he shouldn't be riding a horse he cannot get on or off.
Well im 6ft tall and i cant get on without a block....i mount
the horse like virtually everyone else i know....
I think it's more that animals are sort of allowed to shit where they like. Sheep and cows poo on public footpaths all the time. Geese never stop. Dogs used to until about 1988 as far as I recall.
There are then exceptions made to this. We've generally turned against dog poo (fine by me) and at one time horses weren't allowed to poo on overcrowded city streets (they had little bags at the back that caught it).
Dog poo in parks is clearly a nuisance. Horse poo on paths may be a nuisance for some high speed cyclists, but I don't honestly think anyone else is that fussed, so they can carry on doing what they've done for millions of years and shit as they go so far as I am concerned.
Human poo in the hills is now frowned upon, sadly, although my ability to hack through frozen turf with a trowel was legendary. Have to carry the blood stuff out in a tube now, apparently ;-)
I honestly try my hardest to do this, but sometimes it covers the way, one side to another. And when you factor in winter, with the rain, the sh*t just gets wet a smears across the path. eurghk.
I fully appreciate this, but imagine if someone was caught allowing their dog to foul but not collecting it, I doubt they'd be allowed too say for example - "I'm unable to bend over due to back problems so cannot bag it", I imagine they'd still be fined an it suggested they leave the walking to someone capable of bagging the poop.
> Dog poo in parks is clearly a nuisance. Horse poo on paths may be a nuisance for some high speed cyclists,
i don't see what speed has to do with it, if you roll over the stuff it is going to be sprayed up by the tyre.
> Well im 6ft tall and i cant get on without a block....i mount the horse like virtually everyone else i know....
I've never needed a block to mount anyone I know. Actually I don't know many people that would let me mount them with (or without) a block.
> I fully appreciate this, but imagine if someone was caught allowing their dog to foul but not collecting it, I doubt they'd be allowed too say for example - "I'm unable to bend over due to back problems so cannot bag it", I imagine they'd still be fined an it suggested they leave the walking to someone capable of bagging the poop.
The key difference here though is that dog crap carries stuff pretty harmful to human health whereas horse dung doesn't. That's why there're bye-laws and/or legislation to mandate that it gets collected by the owner.
So why did cart horses have to have collection bags attached the horses rear ends in times gone by?
In times gone by there were a lot of horses being used for everything so the shit would've made a huge pile.
Are horse riders allowed to ride on cycle paths?
The section I'm thinking of is well used by horses because there is a riding school a mile back down the track and I wonder how full of poop that tunnel has to get before they'll feel perhaps it would be nice of them to clean it out.
horses are a lower risk than other grazing animals but it isn't true to say they provide no risk - both salmonella and e-coli have been found in manure. You need to wade through a lot of gardening references if you just use a bog standard google search, btw - I used Science Direct
My local cycle path would be perfect for rollers if it weren't for the horse muck every 10m
> Horses are measured in hands, not feet you ignoramus. Even I know that much.
> Measured in feet, the horse is 5'11. (That bit I had to look up on wikipedia.)
You're out of order deep soup. The post I was replying to had the that height as feet and inches and not in hands. If it had been stated in hands I wouldn't have replied. You, here, are the ignoramus.
I cycled into one on an extremely foggy & frosty morning. Like cycling into a cannonball.
Well you would, your not the one with shit in your face.
Not to mention driving a vehicle that you can't get onto without assistance that you're not in control of.
> Well im 6ft tall and i cant get on without a block....i mount
> the horse like virtually everyone else i know....
Sorry, a bit late to the party, but:
Hurr hurr hurrrr....
You need to enjoy the view while riding and climbing more - horses and crags both provide quite good vantage points.
> Not to mention driving a vehicle that you can't get onto without assistance that you're not in control of.
Quite amazing I'm still alive & never killed or injured anybody. By far the worse s**t experiences I've had involve cows, farmers and fields. I have even cycled and unicycled along cycle paths before now and came away unscathed...
No it didn't, it said the horse was 17'3. No mention of feet.
Possibly, but they're not mutually exclusive. I'm dumb, and you're dumber. Welcome to t'internet. :o)
No it didn't, it said the horse was 17'3. No mention of feet.
' is the symbol for feet (" = Inches).
It's an apostrophe, which can be used as a symbol for feet among many other things. It's a little bit ambiguous, but it's generally obvious that it means feet from the context. (ie: If you're talking about a measurement of some kind. Pretty much any kind of measurement, other than the height of a horse.)
To express in hands you'd say 17.3 h , in abr's post and context it was quite clearly using feet an inches notation.
> To express in hands you'd say 17.3 h , in abr's post and context it was quite clearly using feet an inches notation.
No, if you look at the post and context he was quite clearly referring to hands, unless he's got really big horses in his neck of the woods.
In Equus or war horse :-)
Quite clearly - *if* you assume the owner of a horse is unaware that horses are measured in hands rather than feet, and was sincerely claiming to have a horse that stands as tall as the average giraffe*.
If, on the other hand, you were not a complete numpty it would be glaringly bloody obvious from the context that abr meant hands, and had simply inadvertently used an apostrophe instead of a decimal point.
Ha ha. This irrelevant wrangling really is UCK at it's very best isn't it? :oP~
* - Anyone fancy an argument about what the average height of a giraffe is? Of course we all know their height is traditionally measured in fathoms, so there's no fun to be had there.
Parked outside your castle, when you've been pretending not to be in but you're fairly certain the Greek Jehovah's Witnesses who were banging on your door have gone now.
Serious questios for horse riders - are you always actually aware when a horse is curling one out?
Dogs adopt the 'shaking kangaroo' pose when they lay a cable, but when I've seen horses take a poo, they seem to just lift the tail slightly and drop it. If you're sitting on top facing forward, would you notice? Even if you had to collect it, you might simply not be aware it's taken a dump
Not familiar with horses, may be a dumb question.
Not always aware no and also bear in mind that a horse can shit whilst standing, walking, cantering, galloping and jumping........never seen one curl one whilst lying down tho :-/
> Not always aware no and also bear in mind that a horse can shit whilst standing, walking, cantering, galloping and jumping........never seen one curl one whilst lying down tho :-/
Must be great to be a horse. :)
Awesome. Does it also come with bin liners you can lift out and hang from the nearest tree? That'll show the dog owners who's boss. :o)
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