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Topic - setesdal - reliable or unreliable ice?

pebbles - on 31 May 2013
Was thinking of Setesdal for a possible trip next winter. But: there seem to be two different takes on how reliable the ice is.

the ukc article says "... the ice here is famously reliable (I once recall a 40 degree temperature difference between the inside of the car and the frozen car-park outside). A substantial height gain between the southern and northern ends of the valley also ensures that the season is fairly long, and that climbable ice can be found somewhere as early as December, continuing right through as late as April."

But the Setesdal guide ( s
says "Setesdal rarely provides a season of continuous ice, more commonly there will be periods of intense cold interspersed with periods of thaw."
hmm. Anyone got any more information on this?

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