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Poor sandie left on a ledge with no rope and no hope,His hero let him down in my opinion.He must of just curled up in the fetal position,must of been a terrible way to go,reminds me of tony kurts.

In reply to Thegypsy:

What are you talking about?

In reply to Clauso: History

In reply to Thegypsy:

Irvine's body has never been found.

In reply to Clauso: He was spotted in a crack in the rocks by one of the chinese in the 60,s but i was talking about how mallory stiched him up

In reply to Thegypsy:
There was an unconfirmed sighting of a body, as well as the discovery of possibly his ice axe. The sighting is unconfirmed because bfore any more information was given, the Chinese climber who found him died. As for speculating as to the cause/ circumstances of death, no doubt he died an awful death at a young age, but the details are completely unknown. There is definitely no evidence of a stitch up. To do the extensive modifications of the oxygen apparatus Irvine was obviously pretty keen, and he was known for living pretty dangerously (just look at his not-so-private life)so it is unlikely he took too much persuading to have a crack at everest!

In reply to Thegypsy:

I don't see how you can assert that Mallory stitched Irvine up. Nobody has any idea of what really happened up there. Also, the body has never been found and the Chinese may have been mistaken or simply making things up.

In reply to Clauso: Irvine was 22 and there was older and more expirenced and better climbers mallory could of picked from the team.He pick irvine for the oxy equipment not for his merits as a mountaineer.I find that selfish on mallorys part.

In reply to Thegypsy: Of all the speculation around the deaths of Mallory and Irvine, your accusation of selfishness has to be both the least interesting an most inconsequential.

Try socialising more with people in offline environments.

T.

In reply to Strachan: He was only a pup,and i bet he wasnt so up for it when mallory left with the rope,and the mature mans confidence.

In reply to Pursued by a bear: fu

In reply to Thegypsy:

How can you possibly argue that this happened? These are pretty specific scenarios you are talking about.

In reply to Thegypsy: I refer you to the comment made earlier.

T.

In reply to Strachan: Its documented why he picked irvine.Also it was his last chance of the summit.He was too old to be picked to lead again.I just think if the guy he took had expireance on the mountain he might of been able to get down on his own.I think irvine was too young and inexpireanced.

In reply to Pursued by a bear: I refer you to jog on, north face nob

In reply to Thegypsy:
must of, could of, might of ? Have, not of. Have is abbreviated to 've. Therefore must've, could've, might've.
And Toni Kurz.....

Mallory & Irving ? I understand the rope still around George's body showed evidence of having snapped/separated in the final fall. The only way that might've happened was with Sandy belaying him. Therefore it is ridiculous to suggest" bet he wasnt so up for it when mallory left with the rope,and the mature mans confidence."(sic)
The possible sighting of Sandy's body in 1975 by the Chinese climber Wang Hongbao would have been located above the position of where George's body was found. (ref. Jochen Hemmleb et al.)

In reply to Thegypsy:

As an aside, the average age of an officer in WW1 was 21. The average age of a squadron leader in WW2 was 22-23. A 22 year old in those days was not as immature as a 22 year old today

In reply to idiotproof (Buxton MC):

The average age of a combat soldier in Vietnam was nineteen.
n n n n n nineteen.

In reply to idiotproof (Buxton MC):

Quite agree, when I and some friends organised an expedition and went to the Hindu Kush overland and had a highly pleasant and successful time most of us were just 21, at 22 Irving, who like most on that expedition were probably far more exceptional than we were can't be considered as "too young"!

In reply to Thegypsy: maybe the answer lies in why he didn't choose Odell?..

In reply to malk: He failed the eye test medical

In reply to Thegypsy: you seem to know your stuff was this a reason for Mallory's choice or did they just not get on?
what about the homoerotic angle?

In reply to Thegypsy:


"skill,s"?

Well done, you even got your mistake wrong.


(Signed)

Head Grammar Nazi,
Gau UKC

In reply to Thegypsy:


"skill,s"?

Well done, you even got your mistake wrong.


(Signed)

Obergruppen Grammar Nazi,
Gau UKC

In reply to malk: So you think it was a lovers tif,and he cut the rope.ha ha ha

In reply to Tim Chappell: Ask me if im bovered

In reply to Thegypsy:

All right:

are you bothered?