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Rick Graham on 12 Jun 2013
Just got a look at the new MB book (Vertebrate Graphics)

Looks very nice on the bookshelf next to the battered old Rebuffat.

Does not disappoint when you look inside.

A quick count in the index and I got to 15 ticks.
Rick Graham on 12 Jun 2013
The index page and a few others can be viewed by looking on UKC-articles-latest product news-outside shop link.
Dave Searle - on 12 Jun 2013
In reply to Rick Graham: But how many points?? 1 point for the easiest and 100 for the hardest...
Dave Searle - on 12 Jun 2013
In reply to Rick Graham: Possible 5050 points I got 862. I must be bored to have worked that out....

If deffo got some mates on 3-4000
Rob Parsons on 12 Jun 2013
In reply to Rick Graham:

I will buy a copy, since I'm a sucker for books like that.

But, looking at some of the sample pages available on-line at various places, some of the photos look ludicrously tilted. E.g. the shot on the Walker Spur; and one on the North Face of the Charmoz.

With the book in front of you, what's your impression? Have I got that wrong?
Rick Graham on 12 Jun 2013
In reply to Rob Parsons:
> (In reply to Rick Graham)
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> I will buy a copy, since I'm a sucker for books like that.
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> But, looking at some of the sample pages available on-line at various places, some of the photos look ludicrously tilted. E.g. the shot on the Walker Spur; and one on the North Face of the Charmoz.
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> With the book in front of you, what's your impression? Have I got that wrong?

Yes, look tilted, but the one off the Walker could be a bit of wide angle distortion.

Rick Graham on 12 Jun 2013
In reply to Dave Searle:
> (In reply to Rick Graham) Possible 5050 points I got 862. I must be bored to have worked that out....
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> If deffo got some mates on 3-4000

I'm bored too with the first rainy days for a while.

I'm only on a measly 669 off 17 (recount) routes.

I have not skied any of them.
jon on 12 Jun 2013
In reply to Rick Graham:
> (In reply to Dave Searle)
> I'm only on a measly 669 off 17 (recount) routes.

Hmmm, 20 for me... but an even more measly 626 points. Dave and Rick, I'm really surprised you two haven't got a load more than that.

Rick Graham on 12 Jun 2013
In reply to jon:
> (In reply to Rick Graham)
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> Hmmm, 20 for me... but an even more measly 626 points. Dave and Rick, I'm really surprised you two haven't got a load more than that.

I did not choose the list.
jon on 12 Jun 2013
In reply to Rick Graham:
> (In reply to jon)
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> I did not choose the list.

Yes exactly. I actually added 'just shows it's not a Brit's list' but then deleted it.
Rick Graham on 12 Jun 2013
In reply to jon:

Just been for a kip, how old man is that?

Woke up feeling guilty, so did a (few) pull ups and press ups. I am definitely not admitting how few/many.

Went to look in (the mattress high squalor that is )the room (my son calls his bedroom during his fleeting visits back at home) for the original Rebuffat. Found it elsewhere eventually.

I have a theory it is for post holing / snow wading practice through the assorted smelly socks , guidebooks, beer glasses, climbing hardware and unmentionables to compliment the climbing board in the cellar.

Anyway, I digress, i got up to 29 routes and 1335 points in the old book.
jon on 12 Jun 2013
In reply to Rick Graham:

> Anyway, I digress, i got up to 29 routes and 1335 points in the old book

Has one of them fallen down, perchance? Can you count that? I haven't got my copy here with me but I'll be sure to count up when I'm reunited with it. I remember when Ken reprinted the last edition, he tried to get Madame Rebuffat to allow him to substitute the Red Pillar of Brouillard (I think) for the Bonatti Pillar. She was having none of it!

> Just been for a kip, how old man is that?

Nothing wrong with that. It's just falling asleep during belay duty that's a problem.
Rick Graham on 12 Jun 2013
In reply to jon:

The Bonatti pillar in the old book I counted in.

The Dru North Face is in the new book published in France last year.

I have not done it completely but was there not a problem with major rockfall in 2012?


jon on 12 Jun 2013
In reply to Rick Graham:

Certainly I saw a photo of one of the rockfalls on the west face and there was definitely dust/rockfall also coming from the north face. Don't know any more than that.
Fredt on 12 Jun 2013
In reply to Rick Graham:
Could somebody please post a link to the list. Whenever I try to view it, it asks me to sign into a Facebook account, which I don't have.
jon on 12 Jun 2013
Solaris - on 12 Jun 2013
In reply to jon and Rick Graham:

Well, my score is even more depressingly low in the new book than in the old one. I hope that might make you gods of my youth sleep a bit more easily - whether on the belay or in the chair after lunch!
Solaris - on 12 Jun 2013
In reply to Solaris:

PS - On the showing of what's available from Jon's link, the writer hasn't a touch on Rebuffat; for him climbing and writing about it seemed to be a serious cultural activity, mocked by the Brits, maybe, but wonderfully French.
MG - on 13 Jun 2013
In reply to Solaris: It's like pub quizes that ask all the wrong questions! He's selected all the wrong routes!
Fredt on 13 Jun 2013
In reply to MG:
> (In reply to Solaris) It's like pub quizes that ask all the wrong questions! He's selected all the wrong routes!

You're telling me!

In Rebuffat's list I got 343 points.

In that new one I got 42
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Will_he_fall - on 13 Jun 2013
In reply to Rick Graham:
Excellent, was lusting after this book all winter in Cham, but now don't have to struggle with a French version. 445 points for 14 routes on this list...

Will
TRip - on 13 Jun 2013
In reply to Rick Graham:

442 from 15 routes... way better than I expected!

I think I might have to buy this book!
puppythedog on 13 Jun 2013
In reply to Rick Graham: How do the points work out? is it thta you get the number of points of where in the list the climb is? so route 13 gets 13 points?
Solaris - on 13 Jun 2013
In reply to MG:

Yes, that's what I thought. Does the list reflect more the compiler's own taste, or a shift in fashion, I wonder? Ditto for Rebuffat, too, of course.
jon on 13 Jun 2013
In reply to Solaris:

Rebuffat's reflected his era. Batoux's reflects (I suppose) his era. Neither of which seem to reflect my era...
Rick Graham on 13 Jun 2013
In reply to jon:
> (In reply to Solaris)
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> Rebuffat's reflected his era. Batoux's reflects (I suppose) his era. Neither of which seem to reflect my era...

I think Batoux's mirror the routes he has climbed. He has 5050 or 5151 points.
Dave Searle - on 13 Jun 2013
In reply to puppythedog:
How do the points work out? is it thta you get the number of points of where in the list the climb is? so route 13 gets 13 points?

thats right..
a lakeland climber on 13 Jun 2013
In reply to Rick Graham:

614 points from 14 routes for me. I may have missed one or two.

Some interesting choices in there: The Ratti on the W. Face of the Aiguille Noire du Peuterey for example - I thought that the glacier crossing all but prevented access these days. The Contamine - Vaucher on the Peigne but not Le Ticket?

Also interesting is that Rebuffat's top route - the Central Pillar of Freney is in the list at 93 so only 8 routes of quality harder than that were deemed worthy of inclusion.

ALC
jon on 13 Jun 2013
In reply to a lakeland climber:

> Also interesting is that Rebuffat's top route - the Central Pillar of Freney is in the list at 93 so only 8 routes of quality harder than that were deemed worthy of inclusion.

Probably wanted to make it an (more) achievable list for us punters, than filling the second half with impossible ticks to 'prevent this puerile ticking'...! Mind you, having said that, some do just that, I suppose.
rif on 13 Jun 2013
In reply to Rick Graham:
Hmmm, <300 points in new book compared to >1000 in Rebuffat's; confirms I'm behind the times.

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