/ Black Sabbath "Changes"; what have I been missing?

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silhouette - on 23 Jun 2013
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNFHo6EffGA

I just heard this for the very first time on Absolute Rock and thought it was brilliant. I assumed it was some young band I hadn't heard of. Imagine my surprise when it turned out to be Ozzy Osbourbe from 41 years ago! Good song, great voice, haunting production. What other power ballads as good as this have I missed all the years I've been ignoring heavy metal?
PopShot on 23 Jun 2013
In reply to silhouette: Haha Ozzy Osborne looks as if he's on drugs all the time! I prefer Michael Buble anyday. Nice and smooth music with no drugs involved.
Toby S - on 23 Jun 2013
In reply to silhouette:

Alter Bridge do a nice line in in power ballads without descending too far into cheesy depths!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pn1RwwcfqJ4

BenedictIEP on 23 Jun 2013
In reply to silhouette: I've liked this since the moment i heard it. A classic, If you can get over the language barrier.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-op5vN77tk
NeilMac - on 23 Jun 2013
In reply to BenedictIEP:

+1 for that! And if that floats your boat then try this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grS73FuIXbs
NeilMac - on 23 Jun 2013
stroppygob - on 23 Jun 2013
In reply to silhouette:

Try this; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49N9ADUtFZM

Ken Hensley (Uriah Heep) "Rain."
stroppygob - on 23 Jun 2013
In reply to PopShot:
> (In reply to silhouette) Haha Ozzy Osborne looks as if he's on drugs all the time! I prefer Michael Buble anyday. Nice and smooth music with no drugs involved.

What a strange and silly answer. (Ps. Your hero's name is Michael Bublé.)

Morgan Woods - on 24 Jun 2013
In reply to silhouette:

Not metal and perhaps a bit left field but have you heard any Rascal Flatts? I've been put on to them by my guitar teacher who is very much a meat and 3 veg Beatles, Stones, Led Zep kind of guy.
Clarence - on 24 Jun 2013
In reply to Morgan Woods:
> (In reply to silhouette)
> I've been put on to them by my guitar teacher who is very much a meat and 3 veg Beatles, Stones, Led Zep kind of guy.

Well, I'm not much of a Beatles fan but calling Paul, John and Ringo "Veg" is going a bit far...

As for Sabbath, they have always been at the bluesier end of rock so there is generally a slow one on every album. Junior's Eyes from Never Say Die is worth a look.

(BB down to 0.4 Mbps today so can't give a Youtube link)
The Pylon King on 24 Jun 2013
In reply to PopShot:
> I prefer Michael Buble anyday. Nice and smooth music with no drugs involved.

Living proof that any artform that doesnt involve drugs is bound to be shite.
silhouette - on 24 Jun 2013
In reply to Clarence and nearly everyone:
Thanks guys. Plenty there to open my eyes with!
malk - on 24 Jun 2013
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESFH1gNsARw
and this by the scorps: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGDefpjTqFY

what exactly is a rock/power ballad though?
Luke Owens - on 24 Jun 2013
In reply to silhouette:

Listen to Megadeth!
malk - on 24 Jun 2013
In reply to silhouette: i trust you also don't know about their latest album?
not bad.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhhOU5FUPBE
alan rosier - on 24 Jun 2013
In reply to silhouette:

The older the Sabbath album the better it gets. Go back to the 70s.....
Mr Powly - on 24 Jun 2013
In reply to alan rosier:
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> The older the Sabbath album the better it gets. Go back to the 70s.....

And don't listen to anything since Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
Bjartur i Sumarhus on 24 Jun 2013
In reply to PopShot: "I prefer Michael Buble anyday.."

is it because he's the spitting image of Tommy Robinson?

;-)
PopShot on 24 Jun 2013
In reply to Clarence:
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> Well, I'm not much of a Beatles fan but calling Paul, John and Ringo "Veg" is going a bit far...
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I'm put off the Beatles for the very same reason I'm put off Ozzy Osborne: drugs. I dislike singers and groups who do drugs. The record companies really should stamp it out.
The Pylon King on 24 Jun 2013
In reply to PopShot:

Ha ha ha ha!

If the record companies stamped drugs out - there wouldn't be any music for them to make fat profits from!
The Pylon King on 24 Jun 2013
In reply to PopShot:

Oh and sorry to burst your naive little Buble ( see what i did there?) but:

wait for it:

http://www.nowmagazine.co.uk/celebrity-news/533430/michael-buble-i-never-wrote-a-song-without-mariju...

http://www.contactmusic.com/news/bubles-drug-confession_1120444

Isn't the internet fab!!!
rallymania - on 24 Jun 2013
In reply to Toby S:
> (In reply to silhouette)
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> Alter Bridge do a nice line in in power ballads without descending too far into cheesy depths!
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pn1RwwcfqJ4

unlike this TOTAL cheese fest :-)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P25hBk8LmUM
rallymania - on 24 Jun 2013
In reply to silhouette:

this one slips in and out of ballad, but a great tune


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVMvART9kb8
PopShot on 24 Jun 2013
In reply to The Pylon King:
> (In reply to PopShot)
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> Oh and sorry to burst your naive little Buble ( see what i did there?) but:
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> wait for it:
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> http://www.nowmagazine.co.uk/celebrity-news/533430/michael-buble-i-never-wrote-a-song-without-mariju...
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> http://www.contactmusic.com/news/bubles-drug-confession_1120444
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> Isn't the internet fab!!!
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I think he's been very irresponsible. Drugs destroy lives and he's playing with fire. I don't think I'll be listening to him anymore if he's a junkie.
ripper - on 24 Jun 2013
In reply to PopShot:
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> I think he's been very irresponsible. Drugs destroy lives and he's playing with fire. I don't think I'll be listening to him anymore if he's a junkie.

nah, he's just junk
PopShot on 24 Jun 2013
In reply to The Pylon King: Next thing you will be telling me that my other favourites Coldplay are drug addicts too I suppose?
The Pylon King on 24 Jun 2013
In reply to PopShot:
> (In reply to The Pylon King) Next thing you will be telling me that my other favourites Coldplay are drug addicts too I suppose?

no they are just kiddy fiddlers
The Pylon King on 24 Jun 2013
The Pylon King on 24 Jun 2013
In reply to PopShot:

I think you may have to move to another planet to search for drug free art.

rallymania - on 25 Jun 2013
In reply to PopShot:

i have a "new" band for you then


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIGGVIkcyWU

:-)
PopShot on 25 Jun 2013
In reply to The Pylon King:
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> I think you may have to move to another planet to search for drug free art.
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So basically most pop groups are junkies? I didn't know.
The Pylon King on 25 Jun 2013
In reply to PopShot:

Calling somebody who uses drugs a junkie is like calling somebody who likes a few pints an alcoholic.

I presume that you are aware of the fact that many famous classical composers and painters took drugs?

Of course you could just be trolling me.

PopShot on 25 Jun 2013
In reply to The Pylon King:
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> Calling somebody who uses drugs a junkie is like calling somebody who likes a few pints an alcoholic.
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> I presume that you are aware of the fact that many famous classical composers and painters took drugs?
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> Of course you could just be trolling me.
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I'm not so sure of that, I can't imagine Elgar shooting up!!
The Pylon King on 25 Jun 2013
In reply to PopShot:
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> I'm not so sure of that, I can't imagine Elgar shooting up!!

he was probably just into glue sniffing.

and a bit of tagging.
Lankyman - on 26 Jun 2013
In reply to silhouette:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNFHo6EffGA
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> What other power ballads as good as this have I missed all the years I've been ignoring heavy metal?

Not sure if this is a 'power ballad' but you might try listening to 'Dreamer Deceiver' from an early Judas Priest LP 'Sad Wings of Destiny'? I bought the LP as a kid on the 'strength' of their later phase riding the late70s/early 80s 'New Wave of British Heavy Metal'. If you can get past the awful, hippy-ish lyrics ('Set in the cosmos is a single sonic sound' - really Mr Halford?) it has a kind of haunting quality and showcases Rob Halford's amazing vocal power and range:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjMizl3qQGE
eltankos - on 26 Jun 2013
In reply to Karl Lunt:
This post reminded me strangely of Children Of The Damned by Iron Maiden, to my mind one of Bruce Dickinson's best vocal's ever.
rallymania - on 26 Jun 2013
In reply to Karl Lunt:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmmIH-MVCX8

another priest classic, again not really a ballad, but actually much better live than on the record

i'd sort of allowed myself to forget what a great band priest are/were
Milesy - on 26 Jun 2013
In reply to silhouette:
> I just heard this for the very first time on Absolute Rock and thought it was brilliant. I assumed it was some young band I hadn't heard of. Imagine my surprise when it turned out to be Ozzy Osbourbe from 41 years ago!

Keep in mind it has been remastered in the studio several times, with more modern equipment each time. Lots of old remastered stuff sounds modern.
Toby S - on 26 Jun 2013
In reply to rallymania:
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> unlike this TOTAL cheese fest :-)
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P25hBk8LmUM

Brilliant, haven't heard them in years :-)
Lankyman - on 26 Jun 2013
In reply to rallymania:
I saw them a few years earlier (Manchester Apollo 1979?) when Rob Halford would ride onto the stage on a big motorbike. Yes, they could belt 'em out! Even the punky/poppy ones were quite entertaining
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyxLGSMtqtM
sorry, I had to!

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