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Black Sabbath "Changes"; what have I been missing?

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 silhouette 23 Jun 2013
youtube.com/watch?v=wNFHo6EffGA&

I just heard this for the very first time on Absolute Rock and thought it was brilliant. I assumed it was some young band I hadn't heard of. Imagine my surprise when it turned out to be Ozzy Osbourbe from 41 years ago! Good song, great voice, haunting production. What other power ballads as good as this have I missed all the years I've been ignoring heavy metal?
PopShot 23 Jun 2013
In reply to silhouette: Haha Ozzy Osborne looks as if he's on drugs all the time! I prefer Michael Buble anyday. Nice and smooth music with no drugs involved.
 Toby S 23 Jun 2013
In reply to silhouette:

Alter Bridge do a nice line in in power ballads without descending too far into cheesy depths!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pn1RwwcfqJ4#at=1...

 BenedictIEP 23 Jun 2013
In reply to silhouette: I've liked this since the moment i heard it. A classic, If you can get over the language barrier.

youtube.com/watch?v=k-op5vN77tk&
 Cobbler 23 Jun 2013
In reply to BenedictIEP:

+1 for that! And if that floats your boat then try this:
youtube.com/watch?v=grS73FuIXbs&
 Cobbler 23 Jun 2013
In reply to silhouette:

From 35 years ago:
youtube.com/watch?v=OVMiki-oApA&
In reply to silhouette:

Try this; youtube.com/watch?v=49N9ADUtFZM&

Ken Hensley (Uriah Heep) "Rain."
In reply to PopShot:
> (In reply to silhouette) Haha Ozzy Osborne looks as if he's on drugs all the time! I prefer Michael Buble anyday. Nice and smooth music with no drugs involved.

What a strange and silly answer. (Ps. Your hero's name is Michael Bublé.)

 Morgan Woods 24 Jun 2013
In reply to silhouette:

Not metal and perhaps a bit left field but have you heard any Rascal Flatts? I've been put on to them by my guitar teacher who is very much a meat and 3 veg Beatles, Stones, Led Zep kind of guy.
 Clarence 24 Jun 2013
In reply to Morgan Woods:
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> I've been put on to them by my guitar teacher who is very much a meat and 3 veg Beatles, Stones, Led Zep kind of guy.

Well, I'm not much of a Beatles fan but calling Paul, John and Ringo "Veg" is going a bit far...

As for Sabbath, they have always been at the bluesier end of rock so there is generally a slow one on every album. Junior's Eyes from Never Say Die is worth a look.

(BB down to 0.4 Mbps today so can't give a Youtube link)
 The Pylon King 24 Jun 2013
In reply to PopShot:
> I prefer Michael Buble anyday. Nice and smooth music with no drugs involved.

Living proof that any artform that doesnt involve drugs is bound to be shite.
OP silhouette 24 Jun 2013
In reply to Clarence and nearly everyone:
Thanks guys. Plenty there to open my eyes with!
 malk 24 Jun 2013
In reply to Clarence: good call with junior's eyes- i love this one as well youtube.com/watch?v=ESFH1gNsARw&
and this by the scorps: youtube.com/watch?v=dGDefpjTqFY&

what exactly is a rock/power ballad though?
 Luke Owens 24 Jun 2013
In reply to silhouette:

Listen to Megadeth!
 malk 24 Jun 2013
In reply to silhouette: i trust you also don't know about their latest album?
not bad.. youtube.com/watch?v=OhhOU5FUPBE&
 Esoterical 24 Jun 2013
In reply to silhouette:

The older the Sabbath album the better it gets. Go back to the 70s.....
 Mr Powly 24 Jun 2013
In reply to Esoterical:
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> The older the Sabbath album the better it gets. Go back to the 70s.....

And don't listen to anything since Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
In reply to PopShot: "I prefer Michael Buble anyday.."

is it because he's the spitting image of Tommy Robinson?

PopShot 24 Jun 2013
In reply to Clarence:
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> Well, I'm not much of a Beatles fan but calling Paul, John and Ringo "Veg" is going a bit far...
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I'm put off the Beatles for the very same reason I'm put off Ozzy Osborne: drugs. I dislike singers and groups who do drugs. The record companies really should stamp it out.
 The Pylon King 24 Jun 2013
In reply to PopShot:

Ha ha ha ha!

If the record companies stamped drugs out - there wouldn't be any music for them to make fat profits from!
 The Pylon King 24 Jun 2013
In reply to PopShot:

Oh and sorry to burst your naive little Buble ( see what i did there?) but:

wait for it:

http://www.nowmagazine.co.uk/celebrity-news/533430/michael-buble-i-never-wr...

http://www.contactmusic.com/news/bubles-drug-confession_1120444

Isn't the internet fab!!!
 rallymania 24 Jun 2013
In reply to Toby S:
> (In reply to silhouette)
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> Alter Bridge do a nice line in in power ballads without descending too far into cheesy depths!
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pn1RwwcfqJ4#at=1...

unlike this TOTAL cheese fest


youtube.com/watch?v=P25hBk8LmUM&
 rallymania 24 Jun 2013
In reply to silhouette:

this one slips in and out of ballad, but a great tune


youtube.com/watch?v=RVMvART9kb8&
PopShot 24 Jun 2013
In reply to The Pylon King:
> (In reply to PopShot)
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> Oh and sorry to burst your naive little Buble ( see what i did there?) but:
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> wait for it:
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> http://www.nowmagazine.co.uk/celebrity-news/533430/michael-buble-i-never-wr...
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> http://www.contactmusic.com/news/bubles-drug-confession_1120444
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> Isn't the internet fab!!!
>

I think he's been very irresponsible. Drugs destroy lives and he's playing with fire. I don't think I'll be listening to him anymore if he's a junkie.
 ripper 24 Jun 2013
In reply to PopShot:
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> I think he's been very irresponsible. Drugs destroy lives and he's playing with fire. I don't think I'll be listening to him anymore if he's a junkie.

nah, he's just junk
PopShot 24 Jun 2013
In reply to The Pylon King: Next thing you will be telling me that my other favourites Coldplay are drug addicts too I suppose?
 The Pylon King 24 Jun 2013
In reply to PopShot:
> (In reply to The Pylon King) Next thing you will be telling me that my other favourites Coldplay are drug addicts too I suppose?

no they are just kiddy fiddlers
 The Pylon King 24 Jun 2013
In reply to PopShot:

I think you may have to move to another planet to search for drug free art.

 rallymania 25 Jun 2013
In reply to PopShot:

i have a "new" band for you then


youtube.com/watch?v=AIGGVIkcyWU&

PopShot 25 Jun 2013
In reply to The Pylon King:
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> I think you may have to move to another planet to search for drug free art.
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So basically most pop groups are junkies? I didn't know.
 The Pylon King 25 Jun 2013
In reply to PopShot:

Calling somebody who uses drugs a junkie is like calling somebody who likes a few pints an alcoholic.

I presume that you are aware of the fact that many famous classical composers and painters took drugs?

Of course you could just be trolling me.

PopShot 25 Jun 2013
In reply to The Pylon King:
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> Calling somebody who uses drugs a junkie is like calling somebody who likes a few pints an alcoholic.
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> I presume that you are aware of the fact that many famous classical composers and painters took drugs?
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> Of course you could just be trolling me.
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I'm not so sure of that, I can't imagine Elgar shooting up!!
 The Pylon King 25 Jun 2013
In reply to PopShot:
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> I'm not so sure of that, I can't imagine Elgar shooting up!!

he was probably just into glue sniffing.

and a bit of tagging.
 Lankyman 26 Jun 2013
In reply to silhouette:
> youtube.com/watch?v=wNFHo6EffGA&
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> What other power ballads as good as this have I missed all the years I've been ignoring heavy metal?

Not sure if this is a 'power ballad' but you might try listening to 'Dreamer Deceiver' from an early Judas Priest LP 'Sad Wings of Destiny'? I bought the LP as a kid on the 'strength' of their later phase riding the late70s/early 80s 'New Wave of British Heavy Metal'. If you can get past the awful, hippy-ish lyrics ('Set in the cosmos is a single sonic sound' - really Mr Halford?) it has a kind of haunting quality and showcases Rob Halford's amazing vocal power and range:
youtube.com/watch?v=GjMizl3qQGE&
 eltankos 26 Jun 2013
In reply to Karl Lunt:
This post reminded me strangely of Children Of The Damned by Iron Maiden, to my mind one of Bruce Dickinson's best vocal's ever.
 rallymania 26 Jun 2013
In reply to Karl Lunt:

youtube.com/watch?v=DmmIH-MVCX8&

another priest classic, again not really a ballad, but actually much better live than on the record

i'd sort of allowed myself to forget what a great band priest are/were
 Milesy 26 Jun 2013
In reply to silhouette:
> I just heard this for the very first time on Absolute Rock and thought it was brilliant. I assumed it was some young band I hadn't heard of. Imagine my surprise when it turned out to be Ozzy Osbourbe from 41 years ago!

Keep in mind it has been remastered in the studio several times, with more modern equipment each time. Lots of old remastered stuff sounds modern.
 Toby S 26 Jun 2013
In reply to rallymania:
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> unlike this TOTAL cheese fest
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> youtube.com/watch?v=P25hBk8LmUM&

Brilliant, haven't heard them in years
 Lankyman 26 Jun 2013
In reply to rallymania:
I saw them a few years earlier (Manchester Apollo 1979?) when Rob Halford would ride onto the stage on a big motorbike. Yes, they could belt 'em out! Even the punky/poppy ones were quite entertaining
youtube.com/watch?v=GyxLGSMtqtM&
sorry, I had to!

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