/ Powders, potions and pills to aid training

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Toby S - on 09 Jul 2013
I'm not talking about EPO, steroids or boosting hematocrits via other dodgy means, I'm referring to the vast array of whey powders, protein powders, soluble tables, brightly coloured milk shakes.

Are they snake oil or do they have any benefits?

I've ramped up the amount of exercise I'm doing over the last couple of months after becoming the heaviest I've ever been. I was at 110kg and 5ft11 (with apologies for mixing metric with imperial!), I've lost weight and am now down to about 103kg and still have plenty more lard to shift. Simple enough formula, lots of exercise, healthier eating and cutting out the snacks.

I've been using the SiS Go Hydro tablets to help me rehydrate and while I was picking them up I was looking at the various other powders on offer and wondered whether they were worth the price as they seemed extortionately expensive. Are things like Whey powders worth buying to complement exercise or are they waste of time? Any recommendations if they are worth a shot?


Lukeva - on 09 Jul 2013
In reply to Toby S: Is whey protein not usually used to build mass? Not good for climbing or weight loss. A healthy diet should provide you with enough protein IMO.

Good luck!
gd303uk - on 09 Jul 2013
In reply to Lukeva: getting enouh protien when youre training hard as a vegetarian is hard and often whey protien is an easy solution, not ideal, but the vegi diet isnt either.
Troy Tempest - on 09 Jul 2013
In reply to Toby S:
I find the right protein supplements help with recovery after a heavy session at the wall/gym. By this I mean I'm not aching as much the next and feel nowhere near as lethargic. When I say 'right' I mean finding one that doesn't have silly calories in it.

Also something like Dialoryte re hydration (or much cheaper equivalents) sachets help a lot, especially in hot weather.
xplorer on 09 Jul 2013
In reply to Lukeva:

"In reply to Toby S: Is whey protein not usually used to build mass? Not good for climbing or weight loss. A healthy diet should provide you with enough protein IMO.

Good luck!"

Protein is used by the body to repair muscle. Not necessarily to build muscle.

When climbing at the wall you won't build muscle like you would targeting isolated muscles in the gym
Shani - on 09 Jul 2013
In reply to Toby S:
> I'm not talking about EPO, steroids or boosting hematocrits via other dodgy means, I'm referring to the vast array of whey powders, protein powders, soluble tables, brightly coloured milk shakes.
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> Are they snake oil or do they have any benefits?....Any recommendations if they are worth a shot?

One of the cheapest and best ergogenic aids is sodium bicarbonate (baking soda). It works particularly well for high volume workouts.
myserable old git - on 09 Jul 2013
In reply to Toby S: Chia seed has improved my stamina and recovery times in a way that I didn't believe possible.
Toby S - on 09 Jul 2013
In reply to xplorer:

I did notice some of them were branded 'lean' and were aimed at building muscles without bulking out. Although I'm more concerned about losing fat and letting the muscles take care of themselves!
Daniel Heath - on 09 Jul 2013
In reply to Toby S:

I think a high protein diet is helpful whether you're trying to lose weight or not. Whey protein is simply an effective source of protein.

I take the view that when you're on a calorie deficit, more protein (and training) is a good idea to make sure you don't get any weaker.

That said, many climbers manage to be very good without eating much protein. I find it impossible to judge the "necessary" amount, and I see no problem in eating extra just to make sure.
scarface - on 09 Jul 2013
In reply to myserable old git:

Hi, i've just been put onto Chia seed, the chap who introduced me to it mixed it with fruit segments.

Any advice on the best way to take it for maximum benefit ? many thanks.
Toby S - on 09 Jul 2013
In reply to Daniel Heath:

Should say that I'm concentrating more on cycling at the moment than I am at climbing. Feeling too large and cumbersome to properly enjoy climbing! Covering about 85 hilly miles Mon-Friday and usually a spin out at the weekend covering anything from 25 to 50 miles depending on family demands. That's combined with a weekly trip (manage two trips during term time) to the gym where I mainly concentrate on weights.
myserable old git - on 09 Jul 2013
In reply to scarface: I just put two spoonfulls on my breakfast cereal, after years of laughing at my wifes miracle potions this one WORKS!
silo - on 09 Jul 2013
In reply to Toby S:TobyHi Im 5ft11 and way Between 68 kg and 70 kg depending how much climbing Im doing. I would Skip the whey and concentrate on loosing some weight. Your power to weight ratio will improve no end.
silo - on 09 Jul 2013
In reply to myserable old git:HI,
How does chia seed improve stamina?

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