/ M5 scottish winter equivilent grade?
I thought the rule was approx add 2 to get the tech grade, I've only done the D grades but they are supposed to be equivalent to M grades I think.
How can there be a Scottish winter equivalent to a grading that is not intended for rimed rock, frozen cracks and turf?
in my limited experience with M grades Scottish 6 - 7, (depending on how sustained,) for straight technical equivalent, but prob 5 - 6 in terms of 'effort' needed to climb it.
As above - pretty hard to convert with any accuracy, but as a general idea for snowed up rock, experienced M-grade climabers (North Americans and continentals visiting Scotland) have suggested that e.g. Fallout Corner - benchmark (soft) VI 7 snowed up rock is around M5, and said the same for gargoyle wall VI 6.
You're wrong, M-grades can be used for all that, and they are.
At least to me, this looks very much like some of the photos I've seen from Scottland
But oddly, it is given a M -grade (after all, it was climbed with crampons and ice tools, plus involved ice, snow, rock and most likely also frozewn moss...
Here's some other M -graded climbs...
Aye +2 to tech grade is the rule of thumb I've always used.
Cheers for the replies folks
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