UKC

As the title suggests, any thoughts?

In reply to robhowell:
I thought the rule was approx add 2 to get the tech grade, I've only done the D grades but they are supposed to be equivalent to M grades I think.

In reply to robhowell: I suspect it can vary quite a bit. I've only ever climbed one pitch graded M5 which I thought would be 'proper' Lochnagar II/III.

In reply to robhowell:

How can there be a Scottish winter equivalent to a grading that is not intended for rimed rock, frozen cracks and turf?

In reply to robhowell:

in my limited experience with M grades Scottish 6 - 7, (depending on how sustained,) for straight technical equivalent, but prob 5 - 6 in terms of 'effort' needed to climb it.

In reply to robhowell:

As above - pretty hard to convert with any accuracy, but as a general idea for snowed up rock, experienced M-grade climabers (North Americans and continentals visiting Scotland) have suggested that e.g. Fallout Corner - benchmark (soft) VI 7 snowed up rock is around M5, and said the same for gargoyle wall VI 6.

In reply to Jim Fraser:


You're wrong, M-grades can be used for all that, and they are.

At least to me, this looks very much like some of the photos I've seen from Scottland
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-GEIqrDmBces/UXF6Id7oTQI/AAAAAAAAHPw/RIJhveyvNtY/s...

But oddly, it is given a M -grade (after all, it was climbed with crampons and ice tools, plus involved ice, snow, rock and most likely also frozewn moss...

Here's some other M -graded climbs...
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-HmaB4ELJ5qA/US36MVrMAcI/AAAAAAAAG1A/lrIH9ckmgAs/s...

In reply to robhowell: M5 equates to roughly Scottish technical 7 difficulties. Nuff said.

In reply to andyinglis:
Aye +2 to tech grade is the rule of thumb I've always used.

In reply to robhowell:

Cheers for the replies folks