In reply to jon: twas 4c when we did it back in the old days ,no harder than Chir Mhor south ridge I would have thought ..having said that 4c 5a etc was only just coming in ,so maybe now its settled to 5a ..
I think grading something 5c+ (as a free grade as against 5a 1pa) is rather silly. It's like saying 5++ or hard hard VS. This means basically that it's 6a. Translate that into British grading how you will. And yes, I did it in the old days too (and maybe five times since).
> twas 4c when we did it back in the old days ,no harder than Chir Mhor south ridge I would have thought
Once upon a time an old friend of mine told me that the Walker was a 1200m V Diff. Imagine how surprised I was when it wasn't...
In reply to jon: Who was it said way back .Theres only 2 grades .you can do it or you cant ,so when you did it first time what did you think the grade was ,because you would have only got British grades to go by ..think the Old Yorkshire Gritstone guide back in the 60,s ..
In reply to JJL: My diary entry 27 July 1967 reads: Well that will teach me never to underestimate a climb. I found it mildly desperate the whole way, George (Band)) pulled up on every sling and I did all the leading (in boots)