In reply to Al Evans:
The people who affect what a massive percentage of the countryside that we climb in looks like are gamekeepers and farmers.
These people, and others involved in "blood sports", would almost certainly tell you that the joy they get is not from the actual act of "killing animals".
You may not understand this if you have only ever seen the countryside from the point of view of a climber, walker, etc, and I can understand that. It doesn't mean that they are saveges just because you may not understand them.
If you were to remove all "blood sports" from the UK countryside, it would have a lot less people looking after it with passion and true understanding, and would probably end up getting built on, who knows?!
Wouldn't be so great if you had to walk through a housing estate to get to the crag....I'd rather walk through a well managed grouse moor personally.