In reply to FreshSlate: hydro down is the new trend, is it really needed?
I have a water resist outer down jkt like the North Star, has never got the down wet, yes get caught out in rain, and it came through the seams onto me, but didnt affect the down
If you want a down, get a down, if it gets wet, let it dry out, then tumble dry with a tennis ball to reloft it,
again I have never had to do this in 20 years of down jkts and bags.
So i would suggest if you get a down jkt wet, then you made a mistake, not the end of the world as its more likely to happen stood watching football/rugby etc. not in the high mountains of the world where its cold
all that said i more often where a Primaloft for general use