UKC

I've been on this site now since 2005.

Seen some changes over that time in the UK climbing scene. Seen some changes on UKC.

Seen Al Evans grow old
Seen Norrie Muir get punted
Seen the introduction of the term "freesoloist"
Seen crag swag become socially unacceptable
Seen self reliance drop
Seen the slate quarries lose the freedom of access I was used to
Seen the Scottish hills gain wider access
Seen some great photography
Seen some bad photography
Seen lots of people come and go

There's more, but what have you seen?

In reply to Removed User:

I've seen far too many arguments about religion.

In reply to Removed User:
People come and go
Scottish hills have always been accessible
Photography is still good and bad
Lack of self reliance is becoming more prevelant in every day life as well
Lot of new terms, they will pass, but there does seem a trend to name things that were just the norm previously
I am getting old, like everyone
I'm probably no more grumpy than I was 20 years ago

In reply to Removed User:

youtube.com/watch?v=ZTzA_xesrL8&

In reply to MJ:

I saw that coming...it's the Skoda Octavia diesel estate" of UKC quotes/clips

And it's a load of old shite :-P

In reply to Blue Straggler:

I saw that coming...it's the Skoda Octavia diesel estate" of UKC quotes/clips

And it's a load of old shite :-P

Be careful what you say, you've just implied that Skoda Octavia diesel estates are a load of old shite.
People have been hung, drawn and quartered for less...

In reply to Removed User:

When did crag swag become socially unacceptable?

In reply to Removed User:

Ive noticed many folks would rather argue over old shit than discuss new ideas.
Im not that long here, but seem to recall a broader level of discussion, with less parochialism and ideas left to die a few years back.

I hope those days return, but maybe its more time i myself move along.

In reply to The Lemming:

Good question, but I seem to see more posts regarding a found nut or one that was left behind and could it be returned. This can only be as a result of UKC (or internet access).

In reply to ice.solo:


I tried that once. I'm certainly not on here as much as I once was. But I do like this site and find it generally one of the most user friendly.

In reply to Removed User:
Indoor bouldering walls and Purple Aki.

In reply to ice.solo:

NOOO! Don't you dare!

<waves ice axe threateningly>

In reply to Removed User:

Eyup, I've been leaving this place for years to head out west, but I'm still stuck here, time sure goes fast

In reply to Removed User:

Lots of great things about the site but user friendliness is not one, for sure! The forum is possibly (and probably) the worst forum software I have seen in years - but hey, at least it's fun!

In reply to ice.solo:

I remember when you arrived, you were quite shouty and aggressive. You seem altogether calmer these days, and talk a reasonable amount of sense.

In reply to Pids:


Lots of people say stuff like that. But they are often very biased perceptions based on their own personal anecdotal selective evidence, which deep down they probably want to be true. But what actually is the truth?

In reply to Removed User: I've seen a fine bloke go through hell in a handcart and still face it all with dignity and good humour.

When I read some of the narky blerts on here and get fed up with the gobsh*tes then I remember David Hooper - who no matter what happened kept warmth in his heart.

b

In reply to ben b: <looks around> cant find 'like' button. This post needs one. Agree with you ben.

In reply to Removed User:

I've... seen things you people wouldn't believe... Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those... moments... will be lost in time.......

on about every film or quotes thread for ten years.......

In reply to Postmanpat:

Yes, hauer riginal people are!

In reply to sab:

I'm not big on attending indoor bouldering walls but please reassure me that these are two seperate items.

In reply to Removed User:

I've seen multipitch climbing become a 'big deal'
I've seen sea cliff climbing become a 'big deal'
I've seen seconding a trad route become very dangerous
I've seen bolts on easy routes become acceptable
I've seen climbing walls flourish
I've seen the number of users swell exponentially
I've seen profiles appear
I've seen photos appear
I've seen amazing photos appear!
I've seen women become commonplace
I've seen climbing become more mainstream

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Oh, and I've seen one forum swell into 22! Off topic threads not only allowed, but given 2 of their own spaces! And all that walking, skiing and biking stuff too....

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Oh, and animals are now allowed in photos! (remember the long running cow incident?)

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Seen the demise of the JCT versus Slopeur spats
Seen the growing myth that reliable winter climbing is available in the Lakes
Seen the growing myth that bolts automatically make climbing 'safe'
Seen the growing opinion that good guidebooks must have colourful photo topos to be useable
Seen the growing acceptance of paying £500 for a glorified plastic mac

...and genuine crag swag still is acceptable as far as I'm concerned

In reply to GrahamD:

Great. Lets start a new campaign that anyone caught advertising that they found/lost a single nut that was actually left behind cos someone's second couldn't be bothered to get it out should be publicly flogged.

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Do we have to send them to Brunei for the punishment to be administered?

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/sultan-of-brunei-puts-flogging-s...

Plenty of other crimes we could suggest to his highness to add to the existing list.

In reply to Removed User:

Oh, and the disappearance of anon posts in some areas.
The appearance of registration at all...
Premium posts appearing
Charging for for sale posts...

In reply to tlm:

More anecdotes. Not reality.

In reply to Jonny2vests:

Perceptions actually. And perception IS reality

In reply to Jonny2vests:

And therein is the matter. Ive found other places to exercise my aggression. Talking agreeable sense could be a sign, or more, not bothering to show outrage and discontent is.
Maybe theres less now to be aggressive about.

Treating a forum as a comfort zone just doesnt sit well.

In reply to felt:
Your wit has been overlooked, like tears in rain

In reply to Removed User:

Seen Al's battle to repel "The Peaks" lose ground
Seen people ask when are you too old to start climbing Trad?
Seen the gradual demise of Krabs in favour of Binners
Seen no consensus on the grade of TPS or Bowfell Buttress
Seen planes on treadmills lose ground
Seen seriously good climbers who have never touched rock

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"I'm terrified of the thought of time passing (or whatever is meant by that phrase) whether I 'do' anything or not. In a way I may believe, deep down, that doing nothing acts as a brake on 'time's - it doesn't of course. It merely adds the torment of having done nothing, when the time comes when it really doesn't matter if you've done anything or not.”
¯ Philip Larkin,

UKC: an ever present torment of having done nothing?

I can't even remember when I started here now.

In reply to Offwidth:

25 April 2002, remember it well. It was raining.

In reply to Removed User:

I think the first time I looked at ukc was using a sun workstation and erm... some web browser or other OH! Was it Mosaic? I swear there was a nice rope design across the top and bottom of the page, and rocktalk was still a separate site from ukc with a link to it? The people running both sites were keen climbers, not making a living out of the sites at that point, but doing it because nothing else existed and the interweb was a baby....

or maybe I have remembered it all wrong? I think there were dinosaurs around at the time...

In reply to Jonny2vests:

You're almost certainly right about the rain. In those days if it was dry out I was either working very hard or climbing.