In reply to Ross B:
Thanks for every ones reaplies, please keep them coming.
I have had a look at mammut, and unfortunatly the short leg is seems only to be an inch or so shorter then normal, deminetly not down to the size I need.
Montane looks very promissing as a place to look for future trousers, how ever there winter moutainering trouser again only comes in regular
Cioch is an interesting option, as I am fond of Paramo gear, although the price is alot, I may well look at them as a future option.
The best I seem to be able to go with is looking at an armored per say gaiter, like the Hillsound Super Armadillo Gaiter, (allthough finding a stockist is near impossible) and make do with my normal trousers with base layer.
Ross