/ The great crampon con
Why can't crampon manufacturers simply have one set of centre bars that fit all sized boots as standard. Surely that would be better for the consumer and for them, as they wouldn't need to make 2 different bar lengths saving them money.
Why why why?
Because then everybody who doesn't use the extra bar length (i.e. most people) has bars that are pointlessly long/heavy?
Surely they should be penalised for having inadequately sized feet. Besides which its cheaper to cut some off than buying new bars.
Well I think it's because taller people usually do better in business, therefore they decided they could afford the extra £20.
Couldn't agree more. Your logic is spot on.
By the same reasoning people with larger bodies should pay more for their clothes/boots as more materials are used. Makes it much fairer on small people who's' kit requires a smaller volume of material.
Alternatively we could shrug our shoulders and consider that paying £20 for extension bars is small price to pay for having a great view at gigs and getting served quickly at the bar.
The standard Grivel bars fit my 47 Scarpas...which I guess makes it an even bigger con seeing as I'd already bought the longer bars
... people with larger bodies should pay more for their clothes/boots as more materials are used. Makes it much fairer on small people who's' kit requires a smaller volume of material.
As a small man... yes please! Although the sales generally cover that.
But back to the bar length point, as someone with small feet, why should I have to purchase a saw to shorten some over long bars?
I understand that longer bars would be too long when used on midget boot, but that can be solved in 5 minutes with a hacksaw and a file.
It just seem ridiculous that after paying upto £200 for a set of crampons, people with feet larger than UK11 have to pay an excess just to make them fit your boots. Then to be left with a set of standard bars that are of no use.
I suppose I could use the hacksaw and file on my toes.... but then I'd have to buy new boots. Argh.
Why should anyone have to pay extra just to make a piece of equipment work?
> Why should anyone have to pay extra just to make a piece of equipment work?
But they do work for most people! if you contact grivel with your question you may have more luck finding a solution.
I'm more concerned about the midget clowns -
They can't see at gigs, but still have to pay for the extra bar length.
In a 'whoosh over my head kind of way' I'm wondering if you're just getting annoyed at the limitations of the physical world?
> But they do work for most people!
Kind of my point I guess. Especially if you take Women (generally daintier in the foot department) into account as well.
Now if Grivel et al. opted to offer you the bar length of your choice when you purchased crampons, that would be ideal. Surely wouldn't cost them any more either? They could carry on manufacturing as they do now, I somehow doubt they are making millions by selling extra length bars.
In my utopian world, they would have arranged with the suppliers to have a range of different length bars to suit the customers.
If extender bars weren't included with the crampons and you bought the ones you needed when you buy the crampons that would be ideal. But I'd bet you'd have plenty of people moaning that this was some sort of devious scam.
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