/ Scotland v France
Rocky was the outsider that came up with the goods but he was unpredictable. On his day though he could beat the best. The short odds will always be on Creed but you know he'll give a reliable performance.
Rocky was at his best as the underdog. Once he got a bit of success he started demanding fees like Creed and just couldn't live up to expectation.
Have you considered Drago?
Rocky is as the name suggests, but also expensive, limited and pretty shit in comparison really.
I have. Powerfull looking and should be a good bet in maybe 4 years time. Should be able to demolish Rocky but...
However I'm still recovering from a brutal tustle I had with his Bulgarian cousin a few years ago so this time out its Creed or Rocky
Pretty much guaranteed snow and a good chance of sunshine or Scotland?
I know where I'm going.
It's a bit like asking who you would rather snog - Ens Sharples or (insert name of your hottest woman).
Basically, you're comparing a turd with a diamond.
(Mind you, skiing in France is shite compared to skiing in Austria).
It's actually excellent and living in the Highlands you have the best of both worlds. You appear to have the worst of both worlds.
I won't bore you with my trials and tribulations of skiing in Scotland, but believe me, I do actually have the background and experience to be able to give an informed opinion.
Me too and abroad. See you on Sunday!
Not while I have my strength!
The skiing was great yesterday with blue skies, no wind and sunshine.
How was Huddersfield?
It looked quite bony I thought although I see a few went down to Loch Athfhinn (Loch A'an) and said it was good where you chose your line.
Beautiful - not a cloud in sight, clear blue skies, wall to wall sunshine, and fantastic autumnal colours! All in all, a fabulous day for 27 holes of golf.
ps - I've just looked at the Piztal webcams - loads of snow already falling, perfect build up for a fortnight's off-piste at Christmas.
Sounds good. I am off to Tignes on the 14th of December so should be good. Looking forward to a few months on my doorstep as well.
Thanks for your kind advice, I'll bear it in mind.
(oh hang on, I've already filed it under "dick")
Hope you have a good time, enjoy yourself in France (and don't wince too much at the beer bill).
Have to say, looks amazing! Only thing is I'm not sure its a true representation of the predominant weather. I told the kids we might be on for Scotland and they shivered on the spot, then suggested surfing in the Canaries.
> (Mind you, skiing in France is shite compared to skiing in Austria).
> HTH, JW
I skied 35 days last season, including a week in France and a week in Austria. Those were both great weeks but I skied many more total days in Scotland that were better.
And of course it helps to live close enough to pick and choose your days but I still can't understand some of the UKC members attitudes to Scottish skiing. Do they only climb in the Alps ?
> And of course it helps to live close enough to pick and choose your days
Its ALL about that. If you've got to book a family skiing hol months in advance you'd be nuts to go for Scotland. Also, Scotland only really shines in the backcountry. If you want to ski on piste or lift accessed off piste you're not going to see the best of Scotland.
That's ok, I still can't understand some of the UK's Scottish members to Scotland! :-)
> I skied 35 days last season, including a week in France and a week in Austria. Those were both great weeks but I skied many more total days in Scotland that were better.
> And of course it helps to live close enough to pick and choose your days but I still can't understand some of the UKC members attitudes to Scottish skiing.
If I lived there or near, I would ski there. It's local snow for local people, booking anything more than a weekend if you're from further south is admirable and foolish in equal measure.
Just checked on Google maps - even from West Yorkshire, it's a six hour (minimum) drive to Aviemore, and approximately £70 in petrol each way.
Alternatively, I can get to Manchester airport in 40 minutes, get a 90 minute flight to the Alps for £42 each way, and be in St Anton in an hour and a half from Friedrichshafen airport.
Not really a contest, is it?
You are right, it's not a contest as the two are different. Making it compete is pointless.
You appear to have the worst of both worlds having to travel a long way to get any skiing. Alps are reliable but miles away and expensive and Scotland miles away and less reliable.
If you live locally to skiing in Scotland then you have the best of both worlds and it's not much hassle getting to Glasgow or Edinburgh for a flight abroad. And there are now flights from Inverness to GVA also.
The outcome of this is that many living close by will have great days skiing locally, such as on Sunday, and great days abroad.
You have Huddersfield ;-)
Indeed - but that's what the OP was asking for.
And Scotland is equally expensive
That, sir was below the belt - you should be ashamed of yourself!
Everyone I talk to has the same story about scottish skiing, "I remember that one time, I went up there and got perfect weather AND perfect snow conditions!" The missed point is that out of god knows how many seasons they only remember "that one time".
Instead of going to the scottish hills 5 times this season, I'll be banking that cash and going to the alps for a single long weekend.
This is another myth. We can say with 100% certainty that Scotland is not equally expensive. Go to Aviemore or Fort William and the prices are way lower than France or Swtzerland to eat out. And you don't have to fly either.
The point I am making is that Scottish skiing is great, not just it's convenience, but the skiing itself.
Skiing in the Alps is also great but different. I like both.
Of course if you limit yourself to the piste then you get even less out of it but that is more what sort of skier you are, not where you do it.
> Everyone I talk to has the same story about scottish skiing, "I remember that one time, I went up there and got perfect weather AND perfect snow conditions!" The missed point is that out of god knows how many seasons they only remember "that one time".
Maybe you should start chatting to folk who are capable of understanding weather forecasts. That way you can get a lot of skiing in when the weather and snow is good :o)
Luckily however I have ski resorts 2hrs drive from my house and can make the most of it when conditions + weather turn good.
It isn't necessarily all bad. I'm even further from the Cairngorms than you are, so driving isn't at all practical. On the other hand, I can get a sleeper train up one night after work, get out the next morning at a whole bunch of places with potentially interesting touring, squeeze in a day or two of skiing and when I get back home my work is 15 minutes walk from the station.
There's a lot less stress potential there than there is with airport transfers and baggage allowances. The snow train to france tends to be much more expensive, and there's the occasional cross-paris transfer to contend with...
Don't say that! I am getting the train to Bourg St Maurice in December. Inverness to London on sleeper, walk to St Pancras, Eurostar to Paris, metro to Gare de Lyon, TGV to Chambery, local train to Bourg St Maurice. I'll have skis and a big bag with me :-)
Good luck with that ;-)
Yeah, I've skied in Scotland and had a great time, love the place. And I'm impressed with your sustained week long efforts all the way from Swindon.
Some photos from last spring, we had almost a month of this!!
Or even sneak in some touring after work.
I can understand why folk from further afield don't think its worth the effort. But on its day it can be beautiful, and even in between those brilliant days there is a lot of fun to be had.
Me personally, I love it. On paper maybe I shouldn't, but I just do. Please don't be snow snobs and write it off.
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