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I know the Lakes has had a dusting of snow, obviously there's going to be nothing in nick to climb yet
But I was just wondering what the snow up there was like? Poons and an axe advisable?
Any Lakes bods about?
But I was just wondering what the snow up there was like? Poons and an axe advisable?
Any Lakes bods about?
In reply to goose299:
Snow and cold temperatures forecast for later this week. Here's some excellent advice on when conditions are likely to be good...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zGq-3TlswZs
Snow and cold temperatures forecast for later this week. Here's some excellent advice on when conditions are likely to be good...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zGq-3TlswZs
In reply to goose299:
Defintely no winter conditions in the Lakes last weekend, I think it'll be a few weeks yet before we're out with the tools again.
pics from Kentmere last weekend at
http://paulhorsmanphotographer.blogspot.co.uk
Defintely no winter conditions in the Lakes last weekend, I think it'll be a few weeks yet before we're out with the tools again.
pics from Kentmere last weekend at
http://paulhorsmanphotographer.blogspot.co.uk
In reply to paulh.0776: On top of the langdale pikes today. A little icy in parts particularly down the side of Pavey Ark but nothing that demands a crampon yet. Light dusting of snow on the tops.
In reply to tipsy: Out scrambling in Langdale today. Amazing conditions for it. Photo of Bowfell at the link:
http://mark-mountainjourneys.blogspot.co.uk/
Clouding over now and due to be wet tomorrow but rest of week looking good.
http://mark-mountainjourneys.blogspot.co.uk/
Clouding over now and due to be wet tomorrow but rest of week looking good.
Anyone in the Lakes today, can you help? Since I'm unlikely to find any gullies or turf in nick, let alone any fat ice, I'm looking for the whitest walk available tomorrow. Thinking maybe Sharp Edge/Hallsfell round but only really worth it if there's some snow. Where is it lying, if anywhere?
In reply to Wesley Orvis:
Hi Wesley. Where are you looking at/from? Surely there must be some snow somewhere?!!
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> Just very minor cosmetic covering above 800m, that's all folks!!!
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> Just very minor cosmetic covering above 800m, that's all folks!!!
Hi Wesley. Where are you looking at/from? Surely there must be some snow somewhere?!!
In reply to goose299:
From Scout Scar on the edge of Kendal but can see the whole southern Lakes from the Old Man right across to Kentmere, nothing in the south and have it from a friend at Patterdale that its the same in the north and east, just a tiny splattering, hard to believe i know but i have been watching the snow and weather like a hawk, had a better covering two weeks ago in the north but this is all but gone too, personally i am thinking I might have to the long drive north this weekend if i really want snow.
From Scout Scar on the edge of Kendal but can see the whole southern Lakes from the Old Man right across to Kentmere, nothing in the south and have it from a friend at Patterdale that its the same in the north and east, just a tiny splattering, hard to believe i know but i have been watching the snow and weather like a hawk, had a better covering two weeks ago in the north but this is all but gone too, personally i am thinking I might have to the long drive north this weekend if i really want snow.
In reply to goose299: Bit of snow from approx 500/600 meters on Grizedale Pike. Skiddaw seems to have stripped back a bit over the day. Honister/Gable area was looking reasonably covered from walla crag yesterday but that may have changed by now ....
In reply to Wesley Orvis:
I can vouch for this. Been working in Langdale this morning. All very pretty, but 'cosmetic' dusting only I'm afraid.
I can vouch for this. Been working in Langdale this morning. All very pretty, but 'cosmetic' dusting only I'm afraid.
In reply to goose299: Was up yesterday, only a sprinkling on the tops (no more than a few inches)- deeper in some of the gullies but nowhere near condition. Ground underneath not frozen yet. Was in boots all day and no need for crampons/axe yet.
In reply to BnB:
I'm looking at going up Bowfell / Scafell way tomorrow. I'll update after that if useful?
I'm looking at going up Bowfell / Scafell way tomorrow. I'll update after that if useful?
In reply to Northern Mountain Monkey:
Still mushy at the moment fella - we've had a fair amount of rain over the last few weeks.
Still mushy at the moment fella - we've had a fair amount of rain over the last few weeks.
In reply to Exile:
Thanks, all bodes well for when we eventually get a proper freeze. Bout time the Greenland high got it's act together.
NMM
Thanks, all bodes well for when we eventually get a proper freeze. Bout time the Greenland high got it's act together.
NMM
In reply to Northern Mountain Monkey:
Yep, shoot us a text when it kicks off and you guys are up / looking for a partner.
Yep, shoot us a text when it kicks off and you guys are up / looking for a partner.
In reply to An Triubhas: My pal and I are doing the Mardale round tomorrow. It's a grand walk and sometimes holds more snow so we thought we'd take a look.
In reply to BnB:
Do let me know on conditions, I'd heard the fells nearer the a66 were holding what little snow did fall the most.
Any updates over the weekend on the Helvellyn range would be welcome!
Do let me know on conditions, I'd heard the fells nearer the a66 were holding what little snow did fall the most.
Any updates over the weekend on the Helvellyn range would be welcome!
In reply to An Triubhas:
Been out for a wander on fells this evening near Thirlmere. Weird inversions going on and not much snow about.
Been out for a wander on fells this evening near Thirlmere. Weird inversions going on and not much snow about.
In reply to An Triubhas: Sparse cover- Scafell & Gable had best - but doubt it will last. From what I saw @ Glencoe last weekend now has a good base and building. Go North young man!
In reply to paraffin:
langdale pic from this pm
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=675808289107610&set=a.211203592...
langdale pic from this pm
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=675808289107610&set=a.211203592...
In reply to An Triubhas:
The mountains were looking amazing today with snow and hoar frost down to 600m everywhere. Hardly (ice) climbable but the turf is firming nicely. Need it to stay like this for a week.
The mountains were looking amazing today with snow and hoar frost down to 600m everywhere. Hardly (ice) climbable but the turf is firming nicely. Need it to stay like this for a week.
In reply to goose299:
A beautiful day to be on the hill. Had a wander over Helvellyn this afternoon - uploading a few pics to https://www.facebook.com/LakelandAscents
A beautiful day to be on the hill. Had a wander over Helvellyn this afternoon - uploading a few pics to https://www.facebook.com/LakelandAscents
In reply to goose299:
Sat 2pm summit bowfell
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=676661192355653&set=a.211203592...
Sat 2pm summit bowfell
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=676661192355653&set=a.211203592...
In reply to goose299:
Did Red Pike from Black Beck via Mosedale today it's a fantastic grade 2 scramble with plenty of harder pitches, hardly any snow whatsoever turf semi frozen above 750m not much at all on Pillar or Gable either looks like Bowfell has the best coverage judging from the above post.
Did Red Pike from Black Beck via Mosedale today it's a fantastic grade 2 scramble with plenty of harder pitches, hardly any snow whatsoever turf semi frozen above 750m not much at all on Pillar or Gable either looks like Bowfell has the best coverage judging from the above post.
In reply to goose299:
forgot to add looked like the cove below Red Pike summit looks fantastic for winter exploration when the conditions come in definitley heading back over when we get some proper snow.
forgot to add looked like the cove below Red Pike summit looks fantastic for winter exploration when the conditions come in definitley heading back over when we get some proper snow.
In reply to Wesley Orvis:
forgot to add looked like the cove below Red Pike summit looks fantastic for winter exploration
Sssshh!
forgot to add looked like the cove below Red Pike summit looks fantastic for winter exploration
Sssshh!
In reply to goose299:
Give it a rest Guys!!
It is NOT winter, and there are no winter climbing conditions in the Lakes.
Please put your expensive toys away until everything is FULLY frozen. If you are so desperate to swing around on axes - find a dead tree or an old ladder.
We are all going to get in a pile of trouble if winter wannabees start climbing in poor conditions.
DC
Give it a rest Guys!!
It is NOT winter, and there are no winter climbing conditions in the Lakes.
Please put your expensive toys away until everything is FULLY frozen. If you are so desperate to swing around on axes - find a dead tree or an old ladder.
We are all going to get in a pile of trouble if winter wannabees start climbing in poor conditions.
DC
In reply to Dave Cumberland:
Both my routes on Saturday (Red Pike) and Sunday (Bowfell Links) were both done as summer scrambles, there is no conditions in the Lakes at the moment and that is plain for even the simplest of people to see, if anybody is winter climbing at the moment they want shooting, but noone above seemed to be saying any climbing was in, so please shut your moaning trap up it's really starting to grate on me and quite frankly getting a bit tiresome, i really feel it for your mrs.
Both my routes on Saturday (Red Pike) and Sunday (Bowfell Links) were both done as summer scrambles, there is no conditions in the Lakes at the moment and that is plain for even the simplest of people to see, if anybody is winter climbing at the moment they want shooting, but noone above seemed to be saying any climbing was in, so please shut your moaning trap up it's really starting to grate on me and quite frankly getting a bit tiresome, i really feel it for your mrs.
In reply to LakesWinter:
Ah you want it for you and the few who already go there. I know your style...
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> Nah, I've seen it, dont rate its potential
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> Nah, I've seen it, dont rate its potential
Ah you want it for you and the few who already go there. I know your style...
In reply to Wesley Orvis:
So this isn't a Winter forum?
I think the local word is gob.
And you are full of it.
So this isn't a Winter forum?
I think the local word is gob.
And you are full of it.
In reply to goose299:
Yes a winter forum explaining winter conditions are NOT in yet to save people the travel. I may be full of gob but you are a bigot. Good day.
Yes a winter forum explaining winter conditions are NOT in yet to save people the travel. I may be full of gob but you are a bigot. Good day.
In reply to goose299:
Talking about conditions not been in is good for your cause (and mine) as people will not do the big drive north and then climb anything when they get here, they have put all the expense and time in and think well i ain't coming for nothing, if they know conditions aren't in then they will wait until they are, so get a grip of yourself we are singing from the same hymn sheet.
Talking about conditions not been in is good for your cause (and mine) as people will not do the big drive north and then climb anything when they get here, they have put all the expense and time in and think well i ain't coming for nothing, if they know conditions aren't in then they will wait until they are, so get a grip of yourself we are singing from the same hymn sheet.
In reply to JudithE:
Can't see there been anything at the moment but all that could change tomorrow!!!!
Can't see there been anything at the moment but all that could change tomorrow!!!!
In reply to goose299:
A week ago, I would have bet something non-turfy and mixed would be in at the right height and aspect, particularly based on the way things were developing on Helvellyn >> http://lakelandascents.co.uk/2013/11/winter-arrives-helvellyn/
On Monday though, a quick explore of Bowfell revealed little good news >> http://lakelandascents.co.uk/2013/11/lake-district-conditions-update-bowfel...
Over the last couple of days, temperatures have risen and even Helvellyn has been stripped back. Not completely, but things looked pretty black on Striding Edge yesterday.
Was out on the Langdale Pikes today and it was pretty warm on the tops. There was no sign of any wintery stuff on any of the higher surrounding peaks, but I suspect summit plateaus are white high up.
Will chuck the odd pic & report on here as I get out/up high, if you're interested >> https://www.facebook.com/LakelandAscents
Hope this helps,
Si
A week ago, I would have bet something non-turfy and mixed would be in at the right height and aspect, particularly based on the way things were developing on Helvellyn >> http://lakelandascents.co.uk/2013/11/winter-arrives-helvellyn/
On Monday though, a quick explore of Bowfell revealed little good news >> http://lakelandascents.co.uk/2013/11/lake-district-conditions-update-bowfel...
Over the last couple of days, temperatures have risen and even Helvellyn has been stripped back. Not completely, but things looked pretty black on Striding Edge yesterday.
Was out on the Langdale Pikes today and it was pretty warm on the tops. There was no sign of any wintery stuff on any of the higher surrounding peaks, but I suspect summit plateaus are white high up.
Will chuck the odd pic & report on here as I get out/up high, if you're interested >> https://www.facebook.com/LakelandAscents
Hope this helps,
Si
In reply to siwithington:
Helvellyn in full summer condition today, no snow, ice or frost. Despite the two lads on top with axes. Sorry to disappoint!
Helvellyn in full summer condition today, no snow, ice or frost. Despite the two lads on top with axes. Sorry to disappoint!
In reply to siwithington:
I wonder if the upper section of Gable rimed up in the cold NW last week.
NMM
I wonder if the upper section of Gable rimed up in the cold NW last week.
NMM
In reply to Northern Mountain Monkey:
Anyone have updates from today as to the condition on the higher fells like Great Gable, Scafell's and Helvellyn?
Snow was forecast with rain below 450m but it didn't rain today in Grasmere so so wondering if any snow fell?
Anyone have updates from today as to the condition on the higher fells like Great Gable, Scafell's and Helvellyn?
Snow was forecast with rain below 450m but it didn't rain today in Grasmere so so wondering if any snow fell?
In reply to An Triubhas:
For the removal of all doubt, we climbed Pinnacle Ridge on nice clean dry rock on Sat and found one patch of snow.......about 6" long and 2" wide near the summit of St Sunday !!!
Pics of Nethermost Cove, and Striding Edge without snow at.........
http://paulhorsmanphotographer.blogspot.co.uk
For the removal of all doubt, we climbed Pinnacle Ridge on nice clean dry rock on Sat and found one patch of snow.......about 6" long and 2" wide near the summit of St Sunday !!!
Pics of Nethermost Cove, and Striding Edge without snow at.........
http://paulhorsmanphotographer.blogspot.co.uk
In reply to goose299:
Pike O Stickle yesterday with perfect summer rock climbing conditions, Gimmer looked dry as a bone, did a few of the grade 3 scrambles on the front of the pike, and was a beautiful day, if a little cold. Esk Pike today with wet rock, can confirm no snow or ice anywhere.
But all about to change very soon.
Pike O Stickle yesterday with perfect summer rock climbing conditions, Gimmer looked dry as a bone, did a few of the grade 3 scrambles on the front of the pike, and was a beautiful day, if a little cold. Esk Pike today with wet rock, can confirm no snow or ice anywhere.
But all about to change very soon.
In reply to An Triubhas:
You must be looking at the wrong forecast then.
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> It's about to change? The forecast looks pretty average!
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> It's about to change? The forecast looks pretty average!
You must be looking at the wrong forecast then.
In reply to goose299:
Yes, it does look like a short return to winter and we might well see some snow on the tops by this weekend. Looking at the longer term charts though, it suggests that things are going to warm up again pretty quickly, so I wouldn't expect anything to hang around for long.
PS. Wes, was out on the hill a friend of yours on Sunday. Small world.
Yes, it does look like a short return to winter and we might well see some snow on the tops by this weekend. Looking at the longer term charts though, it suggests that things are going to warm up again pretty quickly, so I wouldn't expect anything to hang around for long.
PS. Wes, was out on the hill a friend of yours on Sunday. Small world.
In reply to goose299:
Ah i was wondering who he was out with, let me guess Coniston, Kieran, navigation practice, very small world indeed. Looks like he had a great day out and won't be getting lost in the mist any more.
Ah i was wondering who he was out with, let me guess Coniston, Kieran, navigation practice, very small world indeed. Looks like he had a great day out and won't be getting lost in the mist any more.
In reply to Si Withington:
I am an optimist and believe the milder spell will be short lived.
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> Yes, it does look like a short return to winter and we might well see some snow on the tops by this weekend. Looking at the longer term charts though, it suggests that things are going to warm up again pretty quickly, so I wouldn't expect anything to hang around for long.
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> Yes, it does look like a short return to winter and we might well see some snow on the tops by this weekend. Looking at the longer term charts though, it suggests that things are going to warm up again pretty quickly, so I wouldn't expect anything to hang around for long.
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I am an optimist and believe the milder spell will be short lived.
In reply to Wesley Orvis:
Sounds like a fair approach to me
> I am an optimist and believe the milder spell will be short lived.
Sounds like a fair approach to me
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