In reply to victim of mathematics:
i also have some experts that i keep for friends or as trashers.
very warm and tough, just a bit heavy and bulky compared to the latest (they are similar volume/weight to spantiks which are doubles at 3 times the price).
nothing wrong with the design tho. the rand peels a bit but easily fixed with goo. the welts are very good and more robust than many boots.
give em a good dose of proofing trreatment, especially where the leather folds for the tongue, and good to go. any crampon ive tried has gone on fine.