Hat a heated discussion with a non-meat eater(except that he eats fish). I asked him why it was he didn't eat meat and he claimed it was because of the cruelty involved in intensive farming and the slaughtering. I reminded him that he ate fish. "Ah, yes" he said, "that comes from the sea". I asked him if he'd given any thought to the way fish were left to die in the holds of trawler, effectively suffocating to death. His response consisted of "well" "yes...", but..." etc...
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