In reply to Karl Lunt:
> (In reply to Mark Harding)
If I recall though, some of the overhanging branches do make good belays for lowering or top-roping? If you've ever led anything on there you'll know they can also be last gasp holds for the terminally pumped.
Thanks for the info Karl. I have led a couple of Red Wall routes and know exactly what you mean but the branches I'm thinking of would just get in the way rather than being of any sort of assistance as finishing holds or top-rope belays.One of them actually looks quite dead.
Btw were the trees removed purely to create a better climbing environment or was it primarily for ecological reasons. I seem to remember one of them was a (non-native) sycamore and another was a birch that looked to be getting towards the end of it's life.