/ Clanking Fekking Hexes!
And I am sure someone will say 'buy cams' but a) They don't work well in winter, b) They're heavier and c) (most importantly) I am tight and don't want to spend the money! :)
Poke some foam in the hole
Being the proud owner of a set of dmm torque nuts I know your anguish! With mine it's the big blue beast that makes the most noise-separating it from its buddies onto a different harness gear loop quietens things down remarkably. Worth playing around with!
I'm not sure how well i'll explain this but here's a shot - Pull enough of the cord/sling where it sits against the metal of the hex to fit a krab. Then when racking clip both ends of the hex through the krab. This prevents them from swinging around and clanking off each other, helps if you have one per krab aswell.
I actually quite like the sound of hexes in winter so dont bother doing this! I'd imagine it's a bit of an inconvenience to place them if you use the above method though!
Put them on shorter loops, about the same length as the wire loops on Rocks or Wallnuts.
I love the noise of hexes clanking. Maybe spread them around your harness on different biners?
pull the sling through the hex to about half way, this reduces the amount they swing about and quietens things down a bit.
You do have to pull the sling out again while placing though
Great idea with the foam! I'll hunt around for some.
I have torque nuts too... great things but yeah the blue one is pretty noisy. Unfortunately I am totally gear-organisation anal (shame I am not like that in life!) so want all my hexes on the same loop :)
Shortening the sling is a good idea too. I am not sure about clipping the other end though, as with doubled slings on the torque nuts it would be confusing (well... you know) to unclip the right two with one hand.
Oh and being torque nuts I also have them on individual krabs to save on qds (colour coded of course!).
You couldn't learn to tune out the noise?
I have tinnitus, so nothing bothers me much, people or clanging hexes, I can not hear both if needs be.
Aha, you need to get tinnitus. (:-))
DMM make rubber slip covers for their military torque nuts. Only in black, though, so you have to practice guessing the size just by how big it is
> so you have to practice guessing the size just by how big it is
Thats a pretty big ask in todays climbing world ;-)
Put each one in a colour coded sock, like golf clubs.
I've learned to accept my inner bumbly and like the sound now, but socks/ prussics/ fags would do the job.
Lol I'll bring a ruler!
just put each hex on a different length cord. that way they all hang at different heights and don't bash against each other. simple.
Not really worth re-slinging them (especially with the nice doubles fitted) just for that.
I'll take the suggestions here to stick a bit of foam in and clip them up during the approach etc. Just pulling the hexes up the sling doesn't work on those slick 8mm dyneema jobs as it just slides down unfortunately.
If you take a man pill and ignore them it works just as well...
We don't all excited by the sound of cowbells...
Given your anal propensity, sounds as if foam in the hole is the way to go
Tie an overhand under the hex after pulling it up the dyneema. Each at a different height. Sorted.
Always good to get advice from someone with experience ;)
Kid's hour over? Great :)
Thanks for advice guys!
BnB... yeah, as with clipping the other end, good for the approach, though a little annoying to undo on route. I prefer multi day routes so was kinda looking for something that wouldn't affect easy of placement.
I have Torque nuts and it's possible to insert one inside another. The bit of sling that is carried in with it during the process also helps.
Bubble-wrap them until you place them. Make sure your second carries some bubble-wrap too, so they can be properly re-silenced on removal.
Alternatively, do what Joe Brown and Don Whillans did: use wooden hexes.
Or stop carrying hexes altogether, and instead carry the modern Scottish winter climber's cutting edge protection-- the world-famous Tunnock's Caramel Wafer.
I mind them at the crag aswell. Maybe if they were tuned to a note, so could play a tune while walking around. I retired mine to the cupboard years ago for this reason. Hopefully, other people will read this thread and think about what noise pollution they're unnecessarily broadcasting to all in the vicinity.
Mine were much quieter when segregated from their kin and scattered around different gear loops...
Difficult when you have gear-organisation-OCD :)
Brrrrr..... Don't even go there
I keep just my biggest hex now for belays the rest stay at home out of my and others hearing, bloody noisy things....
I love the sound of clanking cams. I always try and separate them a little to keep them as quiet as possible, but I think the sound is part of the climbing experience ! Gets you zoned more :)
There is a citation from a climbers horror
-A bunch of climbers flew down beside us gaily clanking with hexes-
Best way I found to keep the bastards quiet is to keep them in their plastic tub under the bed
I agree on the crags... it's a lovely Alpine sound (those cows with the bells on) I think!
But when you're plodding in the snow for a few days enjoying the solitude in the mountains, it can get a little annoying.
Useful, as a frozen wafer can also be buried and used as an abseil anchor.
I wouldn't want to shorten the dyneema/cord as this would limit the hex usefulness when placing. I'd need to carry more gear to extend them properly. I think they are always going to clank together.
Maybe you could fill the hollow interior to dampen the noise? I use this stuff in my profession to fill cavities:
It's a liquid that when mixed with the catalyst quickly expands into a lightweight foam to fill a given space. I'm sure there are similar commercial products available from DIY shops. Note that we usually use this product in a room with extraction!
> But when you're plodding in the snow for a few days enjoying the solitude in the mountains, it can get a little annoying.
But how else will you get everyone in the pub to turn around and notice you entering harnessed on and fully racked up if not for the clanking sound?
Because I'll enter upside down on one of the ceiling beams dressed head to toe in pink spandex!
> Because I'll enter upside down on one of the ceiling beams dressed head to toe in pink spandex!
You'll need cams for that. I recommend a set 1-5 Camalots and double up on 2-3 with Totem cams for the mantle into the small girders.
Are we talking an 1800's pub or a more modern one? Oak or beech beams?
> Are we talking an 1800's pub or a more modern one? Oak or beech beams?
Oh dear... Don't they teach anything at the "intro to climbing" courses in your local wall? For an 1800 pub you need to wear Austrian Tracht with feathered cap. Pink spandex is only ethically acceptable in neon lighted cocktail bars with 'sex on the beach' and 'pina coladas' on the menu.
Wearing pink spandex in an 1800's classic is like putting a bolt in three pebble slab (E0), only worse.
You'll never get noticed on the ceiling if you're wearing a feathered cap... they'll just think you are a Robin Hood ornament! Perhaps if it's zazzed up with some leopard print but you're moving into pimp-climbing territory there.
> You'll never get noticed on the ceiling if you're wearing a feathered cap...
That's why yodeling after every move is an integral part in the ethics of pub puntering.
Now you are being silly. Wearing leopard print and/or white socks is a sure way for everyone to know that your top redpoint was dogging an f4+ back when Dallas was a tv hit. Definitely not the right move to get laid by the fat barmaid.
Difficult when you are trying to hold the rim of your pint glass between your teeth...
Oh I normally just buy them a pasty... works a charm.
Pack the hole with springy packing foam from computer boxes. They'll still click but you'll kill the ringing sound.
I'd just put up with it, you tune it out eventually.
> Difficult when you are trying to hold the rim of your pint glass between your teeth...
Youth of today, all power no technique... http://www.mountainproject.com/images/5/76/107760576_large_de15de.jpg
Probably best not go dipping the dyneema slings of hexes into a complex chemical such as this, unless one of the gear manufacturers have tested same first. The stuff you get from B&Q has warnings all over it, suggesting it might conceivably be aggressive to sling materials; I wouldn't take the risk.
I disperse my hexes about my gear loops when walking off, to reduce noise, balance out their weight and to try and reduce their patella whacking tendencies.....
What are the chances of that photo existing? lol
Not to knock the Tunnock's, but can you imagine corries full of all the crinkling and rustling? Best to go with bananas. It's hard to get much noise out of a banana
What about feeding an accessory cord through all your hexes and then attaching it to your harness? You can even use a knot which is easy to untie, for example a slippery hitch.
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