Don't waste your money/time fumbling around with tri-cams. I was a marketing victim when they first came out, only ever used them a few times and those being in setting up top ropes when I was comfortable and could use both hands (and they were still a pain in the arse).
> Apologies for the confusion, ice routes meaning winter climbing, mixed routes
Ah ok. They're really good. It can be hard to get much else in if the cracks are parallel and icy.
Don't know if there is something on Needlesports website, otherwise the 'brochure' which comes with them should give a basic explanation of how to place them. Placements can be a good bit better if there is an edge inside the crack against which you can set the spiky bit.
I use them , none of my mates will, they, like all pro need to be placed properly to work properly.
Can be placed easily one handed, will work where other rock pro will not, and I don't just mean "shot holes"
2 negative issues i found with them, first they can be "unseated" by moving sideways from placement, if rope goes tight, and second, none of my mates will use them so i end up with them all day, with comments like "if you place one of those things, I might just leave it on the route" helpful,,,very helpful...
Just lack of knowledge etc, stopping people from valuing them
So tricams, yeah they can be marmity but on snowed up rock they can provide secure placements where neither cams not hexs would, they are lighter than cams, they rack better than cams and can be the difference between getting a solid placement or not... yeah so you can't place one handed that easily, but IMO they are worth persisting with. Once you're used to them they are a super useful tool...
I found the ViaMont Tri-Cams on wire to be excellent. I could never get on with the more fiddly Camp Tri-Cams on slings. Cause for one handed placements with the wire cams, it was stiff enough to poke it into a crack until it stops, wiggle around a little, then give a good yank and hope for the best.
Just the normal ones. I bought them years ago, I think before the combi version came out. But they do look nice, it was always the disadvantage I had over friends who had the camp tricams cause theirs also doubled up as nuts.
On another note about tri-cams, whatever happened to that poem, ode to the pink or something?
I love marmite. I also love Tri-Cams. I always carry them on mixed routes, usually 3 small ones, and two large, with poss a couple of mediums as well. The large ones (with the two plated sides arther than the solid construction) are lighter than similar sized large cams.
Yes, they do take some getting used to to place, but on loads and loads of occasions I've placed them (big and small) where nothing else would work. Suggest if you do buy some, spend a fair bit of time practicing placing them before you take em out in anger. Hope this helps.