/ Yet another pop at the Sochi Olympics
I'm finding it all a bit biased and tiresome now. The Guardian is particularly anti-Russia.
they seem to forget that in the UK last year over 7000 strays where PTS
I watched a programme last week I think , that said the whole thing was corrupt, and Putin's pals were getting all the big contracts at inflated prices, making it the most expensive Olympics yet.
What a shocking slur, I don't believe a word of it.
I wonder who got the contract to make the snow ?
“You’d have to spend a long time searching the map of this huge country to find someplace with no snow,” says Boris Nemtsov, a member of the Russian Opposition Coordination Council. “Putin found it.”
The fact that there is corruption is Russia is no shock to anyone; there's only so long the western media can go on about it given that they aren't going to change it.
The Panorama thing was a bit of a stitch-up, with the journo going into an area for which he had no pass and then bleating when the FSB turned-up (and bear in mind this is just after 34 (IIRC) people were killed by terrorists in Volgograd.
Wasn't that the same journalist who painted a very twisted and nasty Western view of North Korea?it makes my blood boil when i see our license fees used to support Western propaganda.The same was true for Ukraine at some big football thing a while back,where they were trying to persuade British people not to go there.They probably didn't want the Brutish to see all the statues to former Soviet leaders and this-
It may spoil the carefully and rigorously crafted Western illusion that all the peoples of the former USSR and Eastern Bloc hated Communism,which is pure propaganda.
Yet another name, Shona?
Bloody dog Killers. To hell with them all!
No stray dogs in N Korea...
Things are so f*ked up in North Korea that street children get murdered and put into stews and sold as pork from stalls selling street food.
North Korea is reliant on outside aid so that people don't starve, and families which have been separated by the forming of North and South Korea into two countries aren't allowed to re-join each other, except from when the ones in the north are lucky enough to be chosen as the ones who can go and meet their long lost families for a while, before the heart wrenching separating which occurs when it's time for them to go home again, which results in them crying to each other through the coach windows.
There's so much information out there if you want to find out how things are in North Korea, it's one of the grimmer countries. :-(
She's got stamina, if not a lot else.
because Russia is a vile and hateful place run by Hitler mk2...
To be honest I think they deserve all the hateful journalism that can be thrown at them. I find it incredible that such a country exists. "There are no gays in Sochi" Effing REALLY!!!!????
Bunch of clunge puppets tha lot of em.
Do you know any Russians? Have you been there?
So you think putin is hitler mkII then you go on to label a nation of people as "clunge puppets".
Is a clunge puppet some sort of sex toy?
I spent 4 months there and agree with the previous post.
Which previous post?
"The Guardian is particularly anti-Russia."
Rather amusing to those of us of a certain age.
I guess, not too sure really, had to write that as UKC wouldn't let me write a far more inflammatory C-word...
"Free Range" is the approved term, not stray.
Not really, the Guardian's support of the Soviet Union is something of a myth.
80 years ago the then Manchester Guardian was reporting the Ukrainian famine when the NYT said there was no famine so I'm guessing you are or soon will be a centenarian. Congratulations!
Are you 8 years old and some bigger boy called Ivan has just walked off with your new toy ?
Interesting to see you support a capitalist like Putin!
Does that come from the same sources who tell the world the result of the deaths during the NK famine of 94-97 were caused by the Government starving the people and not the greatest floods and droughts in living memory?
Don't tell me about NK Tim i've been through this already and exposed the lies and exaggerations perpetuated by the Western governments who have been murdering millions by sanctions,invasions,bombings and of late,soft war.
Go look it up there's
I support the Motherland !
Mother Russia !
At least i'm not a wee bitch like some,know what i mean Patsy ?
Wasn't it the Manchester Guardian's reporter who Stalin had the NKVD kill? Welsh bloke, Methodist, Socialist... can't remember his name off the top of my head, but IIRC the Times' man in Moscow was a fellow traveling useful idiot despite his aristocratic heritage.
Saw some great Tweets on FB from journos staying in hotels there. Stray dogs in the foyer etc etc.........
I go to Moscow quite often with work. Have to say I like the place a lot. The female fashion is what I would term "Whore chic" and nearly all of them carry it off brilliantly. Whenever there is a pitch in Russia there is no shortage of volunteers in the office. I think we shall start using the term "Clunge Puppets".....you sir, are a genius and should write for Viz
I presume that you'll be heading off to Saudi soon with your rainbow flag?
I think Moscow has more breathtakingly beautiful women than anywhere on earth.
Can anybody tell me what is the difference between The Motherland and The Fatherland?
Even better than Reykjavik?
Which also, in the interests of balance, has quality man-crumpet too
I particularly like "killing through sanctions" you mean that not only do they not produce enough food for themselves (yes I know plenty of countries don't (they however are all friendly with the outside world)but that whilst the upper classes eat they let the rest starve. Terrible!!
I thought we were currently feeding most of them through aid, whilst they farmland is badly managed.
Some balance form the Guardian
I agree with a lot of that article. I've been to Russia and even university staff didn't disappoint in terms of racism and homophobia..... but what they really enjoy is pointing out the hypocrisy of the western media, and let's face it, they can have a field day.
We give millions in aid to India and our politicians go on tours promoting business. We are strong allies with Saudi Arabia despite their abhorrent laws. We even tiptoe about when it comes to criticising homophobia from communities in our own society. So all in all it's a bit rich to keep banging on about Russia.
There's been long standing grudges between the US/UK and Russia, and the media is happy to play its part. I really did question (to myself) whether this was in our best interests while I was out there. My hotel was full of Germans doing business and making money, apparently the governments are cooperating for this very reason. I wonder if we'd be better off with a slice of the pie rather than carrying on with this grudge.
Definitely better than Reykjavik
It's been going on for quite some time, long before the games.
India has worse laws than Russia when it comes to sexuality.... they had the Commonwealth games in 2010, we sent Prince Charlie and I don't remember this much fuss.
Our inconsistency is ridiculed in Russia, any positive impact we may hope to have is lost, and Putin gains.
We do ignore human rights issues to make money, the question should be were we draw the line.
What do you think?
I would expect it from the Guardian, naturally, though it doesn't always happen (that misspelling is eternally funny isn't it!). To their credit were the only paper to run a piece highly critical on Sheikh Mansour. I shouldn't expect it from the BBC but I do.
You don't seem to have picked up on the scale of criticism that the OP and I have, or seem to disagree with us that it is happening.
There is often a consensus in British politics and the media when it comes to foreign relation and I think that is the case when it comes to Russia.
I don't disagree that Russia is being criticised. As to the scale of it, hosting the Olympics focuses attention on the host country and I don't think Russia is being criticised any more than China was.
I don't agree that there is often a consensus in British politics and the media when it comes to foreign relation.
TBH i don't know enough about the present situation in NK to comment and by the sounds of things you know far less than i do.When i spoke of killing by sanctions i was of course talking of our(UK/US)sanctions in Iraq that killed up to 1 million people.
I won't hijack this thread but what planet are you on kid ?
I know it's a myth - I was referring to the usual rightard accusations of the era. (Cold war for the Ukraine cleverclogs).
That's a good point, it just didn't come up, did it? Could it be anything to do with politics, and yet how may times has the Conservative Party said sport should be kept out of politics, when people didn't want Britain playing rugby with South Africa during apartheid, for example.
For information it's just as bad in France, nearly all the news reports about the Olympics are negative, yesterday it was the buildings not being ready - lots of shots of bemused gardeners or build workers on clearly unfinished sites saying "Don't worry everything will be ready on time" and today it's shorts of massive military concentrations around Sochi, as if this was anything shocking. Only saved at the end by the "man on the spot" saying the controls were tight but no more than previous games. Very anti-Putin too, can't anyone tell them that in Russia he is very popular?
Don't forget Putin isn't bowing to the Nato neo-colonialist led attack on Syria,nor is he bowing to our backward Islamist fascist Wahabi friends in Saudi and Qatar.So our press,who are their PR arm dutifully trumpet the anti-Russian rhetoric from their BBC/C4/Reuters/Sky/NBC/CNN/Al-Jazeera/ITN propaganda mills.
It's all old news though as it's been going on since 1917,though some people really struggle to get their wee minds around it.
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