/ Boom Boxes at crags
Is it fine to play your music at the crag? Are boom boxes back in style now? ;).
No, definitely not. Please name the crag so I can avoid it.
If no one is around... why not? But if someone turns up it would be polite to turn it off or ask if they are ok with it (assuming most people would be too shy/polite to ask).
What is RHCP?
Were they wearing Beanies, smoking weed, and using buckets of chalk and sissy Mats
Haha. You mean the snowboarders of the climbing world? :)
Perfectly acceptable at venues like Horseshoe Quarry.
Beanies don't bother me, neither does weed, but using buckets of chalk annoys me. Really don't see the point, or even the effectiveness of plastering loads of chalk on holds or hands. For me a light dusting on my hands if they are sweaty or greasy is enough. Often as not i don't use it all.
I think it's acceptable provided not multipitch.
Yeah! If you're gonna piss people off, do it properly.
Not acceptable anywhere - why should anyone else have to listen to your music?
This, although I think there is a judgement call as to whether you think it's fairly obvious that someone would rather you weren't playing music/wouldn't say if they did care, or someone who you think genuinely wouldn't mind, but you're just checking.
There've been a few occasions where we've had some music on either on lazy "rest days", or early morning epics where a bit of music gives atmosphere and psyche to the group (particularly when climbing in a 3), but pretty much always turn it off without asking if someone else turned up. This was usually either midweek climbing trips or really early starts in the middle of no-where where we were fairly sure no-one would hear it.
Back in style? - I wouldn't have thought so. Surely everyone is immersed in their headphone/bud virtual world nowadays?
I recall 'ghetto blasters' (the term of the period) being deployed in the 70's/80's but who really carries that sort of kit around now?
Is it more acceptable at sport crags in general do you think?
wasn't munich climb or belle vue bastion originally climbed with a gramophone player belting out music? a precedent set near the birth of our sport... ;)
As long as it's rock music I have no problems.
Totally unacceptable if anyone else is within earshot.
If people really do feel the need for music at a crag, they should use headphones (pretty obvious really).
It's fine as long as the owner of the "boom box" is aware of the risk of loud noises triggering rockfalls which may just happen to land on his "boom box" ;)
There were these teenagers playing with a boom box outside my mates house and this happened :(.
Personally, I have the biggest problems if it's rock music! But I think it's selfish behaviour regardless of genre - in the outside environment it's noise pollution, and pretty much on a par with leaving litter or shitting right under the crag. In my opinion.
Not even at Stoney Electric Quarry. I always thought them obligatory to drown out the hum of the sub station.
No! Like Chris said - why should people have to listen to someone else's music?
Boom boxes (god that takes me back,) make excellent targets to practice your boulder bombing on.
Yeah, it's a grim, depressing place to go climbing, and someone else's crap music on a tinny speaker would fit in perfectly. I wouldn't object at Electric Quarry either.
At any other crag I would consider it absolutely unacceptable.
When I as little my parents used to encourage me to accidentally take them out in campsites with the Frisbee. Excellent sport.
I forgot the ;)
Its plain bad manners to subject anyone else to your music choice, wherever.
Most builders. De Walt, Bosch, JCB, Makita.... they're all making a bomb flogging those radios which look like mini generators.
Never acceptable in my view. What the music happens to be is a total irrelevance. I happen to think Shostakovich composed some of the best music ever written but would never subject anyone else to it or ask them if they were OK with it. Much better if people find things for themselves. :oD
I go caving with a boom box but you dont often meet other people so its ok :)
"What kind of messages can we send from today's explorations? 'We are playing the Big Audio Dynamite tape, it seems to help'. To be honest, I don't see why not."
They also had a shorter two word name that was much less politically correct (if not downright offensive).
haha brilliant :)
I was expressing a personal opinion, that I find rock music the least suitable and most off-putting type when climbing. I went on to express the more general opinion that playing any music at the crag was inconsiderate if there are other people around.
Seems pretty straightforward to me. What is this mysterious point of yours that you reckon I'm missing?
When anybody hears the sound of the John Frusciante/Flea combo, they have to drop to there knees and bow repeatedly, chanting "We're not worthy!".
This can be problematic when pushing your grade
I've had to put up with it several times in the US but never in the UK
I think people would climb quicker if a bit of gabba was being played. Nice bit of Lenny Dee and youll fly over the crux :)
I started up the second pitch of Raven's Gully, Low Man, to the unexpected sound of pan pipes (actual pan pipes not recorded music)... someone was having some sort of spiritual experience thing. Was a bit surreal!
We found a guy playing a didgeridoo in Robin Hood's Cave at Stanage many moons back. I quite enjoyed that. Does this raise the question as to weather live music at the crag is (more) acceptable compared to recorded music?
Im gonna say acoustic musical instrument playing is cool at the crag, electronic is not.
Used to a trad crag but some sport has been put up recently which is what the boom boxers were on. Makes sense I suppose. Younger people enjoy sport more.
If there are ten or more people around the Boom Box and it was playing repetitive beats then wouldn't this be forbidden under the Criminal Justice Act?
Or El Cap
Any beat is repetitive by definition.
or drum kit?
Rock music.....rock climbing geddit?
Was it outside of the season for hippy culling?
Ah … a joke, you think? I just took it to mean he's one of those climbers who like rock when they're climbing - there's plenty of them around, judging by the racket at your average UK climbing wall or on a Masters of Stone vid
No, not under any circumstances. It's just bad manners.
Oh yeah, manners, that's an old school thing.
What about doing belle vue bastion in the style of the first ascent?
most do, otherwise the route has got very overgrown!
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