In reply to indigo:
I did the ridges snow and ice last year without ice gear and I came out with brown trousers... I think the prospect of doing Catstye Cam overrode my sensibilities. Most foolish thing I've ever done on a hill.
A few years back we went up Wythburn and down Dollywaggon Pike - Dunmail Raise in patchy snow - wasn't a problem as long as we were careful and didn't descend straight down to Grisedale Tarn from DP, looping west into Raise Beck instead.