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Ok, im in the market for half ropes, iv just about narrowed it down to mammut as i know a few people who have them. Tough and durable. I like the sound of that.
Has anyone had or have used the meteor,genesis or galaxy range??
I want 60m ropes.mostly be useing as quarrys, multipitch and sea cliffs.

In reply to stupot2:

Do you mean the galaxy range? My Mammut Galaxy is a 10mm Single rope...

In reply to stupot2:

Genesis are pretty much the defacto half ropes IMO. They aren't the most supple but they are supple & light enough, very strong and very abrassion resistent. The dry treatement is also pretty good. In most cases they go on well past 5 years (if you still trust them).

In reply to stupot2:

I have a pair of genesis, very happy with them. Tough and durable indeed. The only downside I can see is that the sheath is on the smooth side, I am adding a bit extra friction when abseiling but nothing terrible.

In reply to stupot2:

Really not a fan of the Genesis - dislike the stiffness and hence clumsy-feeling handling, but I think that's more a problem with Mammut rope treatment (not specifically the Genesis), as it's the same with the superdry Galaxy. Though I suppose that's where the durability comes from... Used Edelrid, Beal and Tendon halves (probably others as well) and I think I liked the Mammuts the least.

In reply to stupot2:

I use Mammut Phoenix as half ropes, which are lighter than any of your suggestions but seem to last and handle very well.

In reply to John2:

Plus one

In reply to drolex:

Thanks for that, do you mean slippery as in slick and smooth or that they kind of crush or flatten if you know what i mean?
A freind has a 10mm classic and its awfull,too slick and kind of soft which makes belaying hard work. Especially holding them whilst they are resting!

In reply to stupot2:

Thanks for input guys, i have narrowed it down to the genisis for now. But would like to find a shop that sells them to see how they feel.

We are useing galaxys 9mm which are really good tough ropes but cant find them anywhere.....
Also........50 or 60m??
Iv always used 50s and not had a problem with length for routes and abbing off.
Do we really need 60s??

In reply to stupot2:

The genesis ropes are great, I've never been at all concerned about the handling. 60 m ropes can allow you to run pitches together which is useful in the winter to minimise time getting cold belaying.

In reply to stupot2:

As in slick, but nothing to be concerned about. I know some people who don't like that, but it's more a question of feeling than handling issues, really. Personally I don't like extremely rough ropes - each to his own

In reply to stupot2:

I asked a similar 50 vs 60m question a month or two ago and got some good replies (do a search!). I ended up going for 50m genesis-not used them too much yet so can't give a review, but on initial impression they're fine.

Mike.

In reply to Otis:

How were they through the belay otis? And tieing off? I believe some people have concerns about them.
Urban rock are doing them for £200.

In reply to stupot2:

Here's a couple of my recent threads that may be of use:

http://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/t.php?n=581735
http://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/t.php?n=586497

I've only had one trip out with them so far and havedone some leading, lowering and abseiling on them so far. Have belayed a second up, but not belayed a leader.

They were fairly slick through the belay device. However, I was using a Bug, with 8.5mm being right at the bottom of it's operating range (see second postabove ). I've bought a Bugette to give a bit more bite to the belay.

Tying off was fine - not sure what the concern would be if you do a decent knot? Out of the bag they are a bit wiry and slippy feeling (probably to do with the dry coating I'm guessing) but a few people have mentioned that this eases once they see a bit of use.... which is exactly what I have planned for them this weekend

Mike.

In reply to stupot2:

I have the meteor half ropes in 60m and have no complaints with them. Handle very well and seem to be holding up pretty decent too. Obviously the 60m length has its issues on shorter pitches but for bigger mountain routes (the Ben/big faces on Skye) then they really come into their own.

In reply to stupot2:

Hey thanks very much for your input and advice lads, its a good community this

Im on for the genisis as theyl be mostly used for quarrys and multipitch.

Just need to get them ordered..........
Il put my opinion on them on here if anyone might be interested!

In reply to Otis:
The reason they are stiff is the sheath is very thick and tightly woven this is also the reason the are so durable. One plus side is I've found the stiffer the rope the less the tangle!

I bet you find the buggette too grabby on the genesis especially as the ropes age. As mentioned the ATC xp is a much better belay device on the genesis and has the plus point of also allowing you to abseil and belay on standard width lines (unlike the bugette you won't even get a 10 mm rope in to it).