/ Chamonix PD+ or AD- Early Sept 2014
I have 3 weeks in Swiss Alps in Aug, then back in UK for 1st week of Sept.
I am half thinking about maybe one week or 10 days in Chamonix, from approx. 8th Sept. But my dates are a little flexible.
I would like to do some sub 4000m routes at grade PD+ or AD-
Thinking of ....
Aiguille du Tour
Aiguille du Moine
Aiguille du Agentiere
.............and/or similar peaks.
Start at grade PD+ , then progress to AD-
Any one half interested ?
No one interested then ?
At all ?
No sorry, but beware of the Aiguille d'Argentière in September - the summit slope of the Ordinary Route (the Milieu Glacier) which you would inevitably descend even if you'd done another route, becomes grey and icy very quickly. Definitely check conditions on this one before going. Hope you find a partner...
im in the area and potentially partnerless at that time, could be up for something, though im after 4000m+ at a minimum of AD. why are you wanting to stay low?
>beware of the Aiguille d'Argentière in September....
Yes, I will take head of this.
>why are you wanting to stay low?
I'm doing some 4000ers in August (see wishlist), so may be up for some 4000ers in Sept.
Would like to see the Table du Roc again after all these years.
And some of the sub-4000 look realy nice !
eg the Aiguille du Moine - 3412m - South Face PD or South Ridge AD-
Hi ray, I live near chamonix, give me a shout nearer the time, would be happy to do a few routes
will be in touch nearer the time and see how things pan out.
Will keep everyone updated in due course.
The ridge is a lot better, the face is a heap rubble. There's only one bit that merits the grade.
I meant there's only one pitch on the ridge that merits the grade AD.
I've just checked the guide book, and although the picture of the south face looks interesting (albeit from afar), the same book describes it... "surprisingly the face is rather featureless, the climbing straightforward and not particularly interesting."
Might have to go up the ridge then.
The S face of the Moine is the normal descent route, you can scramble down without following any particular route... caution is required all the same as a fall could still be deadly, a few years ago someone posted about his son (I think) who was killed after a fall on this face.
There are two other peaks on this ridge leading up to the Aiguille Verte, the Cardinal and the Eveque, which also have reasonably graded climbs on them and can be done from the same refuge.
Im going to be in the Alps from the 12th August till the 26th so would be interested in doing something with you if these dates are any good.
please get in touch, regards kevin
I believe the Eveque has some nice routes of a suitable grade, so that may be a goer, too.
Sorry mate, I'm fully tied up in August, so the dates are Sept.
I did say the 8th which is a Monday, but maybe Friday 5th or Sat 6th Sept.
Currently travelling, so internet access is patchy.
alpine grades are very fickle, pd+ may not in reality be any easier than ad-. It's not so much about progressing from one to the other but more about building a base of experience that you can solve most problems with! Better to look at the route and decide based on that. In my experience I've also found swiss pd in the saastal much easier than French pd in chamonix. Enjoy your trip
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