/ first road bike

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buzby - on 10 Jul 2014
haven't used a road bike for about 20 odd years but way back then used to do fair bit. mostly used mountain bikes since the on and off but to be honest mostly off.
anyway in an effort to get fitter and lose some beef I was thinking of taking it up again but im really out of touch with whats on the market nowadays.
anyone recommend what I should be looking for as a good all rounder for getting fit and doing some sunday runs again.
price isn't to much of an issue within reason and I wont be entering the tour anytime soon so just looking for something good quality for country runs.
cfer - on 10 Jul 2014
Euge - on 10 Jul 2014
In reply to buzby:

Ribble...
Rigid Raider - on 10 Jul 2014
In reply to buzby:

Don't make the mistake of falling in love with the first bike you try.

Don't buy online; buy from a shop and get them to fit the bike to you.

Whereabouts are you?
The New NickB - on 10 Jul 2014
In reply to buzby:
You say budget isn't really an issue, but you can spend from 250 to over 10,000.

Things to consider a frame material and groupset.

Cheaper bikes will be aluminium, with all but the very cheapest having carbon forks. Nothing wrong with these bikes and pretty much all the bikes up to 800 and quite a few more expensive ones will be aluminium.

Carbon bikes tend to start at just under 1000, although I'm sure some bargains can be had.

All the named groupsets from Shimano, SRAM and Campag will function and even the cheapest will be better than the best from 20 years ago. I have only used Shimano to any great degree and found Tiagra, which is one of the cheaper groupsets, to be perfectly fine. I have Dura Ace on my good bike and this is better, but pure indulgence considering the price premium.

Ribble and Dolan offer very good value if you know what you want, but it is definitely worth sitting on as many bikes as possible. Big brands like Trek and Specialised make good bikes, but you pay a bit of a premium for the name, even more so for some of the Italian brands.
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kathrync - on 10 Jul 2014
In reply to The New NickB:


> Things to consider a frame material and groupset.

> Cheaper bikes will be aluminium, with all but the very cheapest having carbon forks. Nothing wrong with these bikes and pretty much all the bikes up to 800 and quite a few more expensive ones will be aluminium.

> Carbon bikes tend to start at just under 1000, although I'm sure some bargains can be had.

I bought recently with a budget of 1000. At this price, I found that bikes with carbon frames often had cheaper components elsewhere, while bikes with aluminium frames tended to have higher spec groupsets than the carbon bikes at the same price point. Think about which is more important to you! If you want the best of both worlds, you'll have to buy at a higher price point (or get lucky with a good bargain).

Otherwise, comfort is the main thing. I sat on loads which felt ok, but the one I bought was really comfortable in comparison to everything else.
The New NickB - on 10 Jul 2014
In reply to kathrync:

Yes. I would expect the carbon bike to be either lower spec'ed or at least 200 more.
GrahamD - on 10 Jul 2014
In reply to buzby:

In my experience, you won't really know whats right for you until you have owned a bike for a bit. My advice would be to go for a decent entry level ALu bike with Sora or Tiagra (600 - 800). Get it from a shop that will fit it for you. After a year or two you will be fitter, stronger and know much better what to be looking out for and you will enjoy shopping for your upgrade much more.
felt - on 10 Jul 2014
In reply to kathrync:

> than the carbon bikes at the same price point.

Does that mean at the same price?
rousse - on 10 Jul 2014
In reply to buzby:

It might be worth finding a bike shop with a good fitter and seeing what makes they recommend for your build. I went to get my existing bike fitted for me and was told that my build (long arms and legs, short body) was suited to Italian makes (apart from Bianchi). I have a Specialized, and the Americans apparently build bikes for people with long bodies and short limbs.

I wasn't in the market for a new bike, and he's a reputable bloke, so I don't think he was trying to flog me a Pinarello. Anyone else heard this? I've no idea what UK frame builders do in comparison...
kathrync - on 11 Jul 2014
In reply to felt:

> Does that mean at the same price?

Yes
felt - on 11 Jul 2014
In reply to kathrync:

Great, thanks.
LastBoyScout on 11 Jul 2014
In reply to rousse:

Bianchi used to be known as quite short bikes (horizontal length), but I'm told this is less the case now as they are aiming at the American market and have got a bit longer to compete with those brands.

Incidentally, I'm similar build to you - my Trek is definitely too long for me, but my swanky new Italian bike is perfect :-)
rousse - on 11 Jul 2014
In reply to LastBoyScout:

Oh no, that's all I need, I was lusting after a Pinarello at the weekend :-(

Your comment on Bianchi is exactly what the bike fitter said - Bianchi make bikes for the American market and so for the American, longer-bodied shape.
jkarran - on 11 Jul 2014
In reply to buzby:

In a similar position to you I decided to ignore most of the advice I got to spend whatever I could afford on X, Y or Z branded bike (some suggested buying in sales in fairness). In the end I got an aluminium Raleigh with carbon forks off ebay for abut 300 quid. It doesn't have any bling bits but it weighs about the same as the higher priced options I could afford, it works just fine and it hasn't snapped or killed me yet.

jk
Wee Davie - on 11 Jul 2014
In reply to buzby:
My bike is a 600 bike but I got it for 300 (used a couple times then the original owner gave up riding).
My bike has a decent frame (Specialized Allez), poor groupset and very poor brakes. I like it a lot despite those flaws but would not want to go lower in terms of spec.
My bike was basically new, but secondhand, so bargains can be had. If I was in that market again I'd buy second hand again.
The next bike I get will have a better groupset, wheels and hydraulic disc brakes (sits back and drums fingers).
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buzby - on 11 Jul 2014
In reply to Wee Davie:

thanks for all the info folks, im not to far from Glasgow so I think I will take the advice on here and try out a few. budget I was thinking of was anything up to about 1500 but having looked online there is some serious money in bikes nowadays if you want to spend it,showing just how out of touch I am.
thanks .
The New NickB - on 11 Jul 2014
In reply to buzby:

1500 will get you something pretty decent, carbon + 105/Ultegra or similar.
Euge - on 14 Jul 2014
In reply to buzby:

budget I was thinking of was anything up to about 1500

BUDGET!!!! 1500 is serious money, budget is 500????

Euge
The New NickB - on 14 Jul 2014
In reply to Euge:

I think you may have misunderstood the use of the term 'budget'.
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moffatross on 14 Jul 2014
In reply to buzby:

Keep an eye on gumtree for used bikes. I just picked up a fully Ultegra finished 2013 Planet X carbon roadster with a very good Shimano wheelset from deepest Fife for about the same price as I would have paid for an aluminium bike with Sora groupset/no name finishing kit.


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