In reply to Hyphin:
Rab Vapour Rise GUIDE. The crucial part here is the "Guide". Being a relative newcomer to climbing / hillwalking world, I purchased one of said jackets, expecting it to be the bees knees, the answer to all my outdoors jacket needs. The free Rab hat Tiso threw in sealed the £125 deal.
It became apparent very quickly that sewing a fleece into a vapour rise jacket is a terrible idea for my sweaty body type. It does away completely with the flexibility a separate fleece and vapour rise jacket gives you, meaning; your either too hot and sweaty due to the fleece then the wind rips right through the thing and your baltic in your own frozen sweat.
I remember donning it on a very wet accent of Ben Lui under a hardshell and being absolutely soaking / miserable for the whole day.
I managed to sell it on here.... and have since bought a vapour rise alpine which is much more flexible and absolutely brilliant!
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