In reply to andymac:
Great bikes generally, good value for the most part. Nearly bought one myself but ended up with an S works as I couldn't try the sizes I wanted (I wanted custom colour so no return). Dolan would paint it but I'd have no idea on how the colours would actually look in the flesh.
Enty loves his. Guys in my club love theirs
I wouldn't bother with the Cosmics personally. Di2 is mint but an indulgence, your hobby your money.
Do you need a car? Do you do the miles on the bike to enjoy that level of indulgence?
Downside in my opinion is that it is an open mould frame , however the price reflects this.
RE location and prices, majority are all made out in the far east, expertise and factories are there. A lot are made in the Giant Factory. Even those stating made in Italy tend to be assembled. The Colnago C60 is an exception and there are others (perhaps the dogma and the top Williers but I couldn't swear on that). Trek make there top frame over in Wisconsin
Dolan are made out there pretty sure they don't hide that either, not sure if they are open about the grade of carbon and resin though
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