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 Roberttaylor 19 Dec 2014
I'm in La Grave from 3rd Jan-10th Jan and hopefully will be climbing ice every day. However, given the current conditions out there, what are people's recommendations for alternative activities in the area? So far I have

Skiing (piste)
Ski touring?
Winter alpinism?

Any suggestions of routes, ski tours etc. much appreciated.
 Simon4 19 Dec 2014
In reply to Roberttaylor:
Piste skiing - not terribly good near La Grave, unless you go quite a way to Serre Chevalier, or back toward Grenoble to Alpe D'Huez or Les Deux Alpes. None of these are very good at the moment to put it mildly, most likely they are conserving what little snow they have for Christmas. If open, the "off piste with lifts" from La Grave itself are very good - when they are good.

Ski-touring - some may be possible, you may have to walk MUCH further than usual at this time of year carrying skis.

Winter alpinism - er, at this time of year? You need to be pretty hard and pretty good for that!

An intermediate, not quite high mountains but certainly not roadside :

http://www.ice-fall.com/Page_Secteur.aspx?IdSecteur=22

(over the Col du Lautaret, down quite a long way to the highest village of the Serre Chevalier ski-station, then a 2-3 hour walk-in up a side valley from the Terraine Nordique).

In fact, several hours walkin, most or all of which would have to be done by headtorch.

Of course, this can change before you get there, depends on any days of heavy snow or sustained cold. But heavy snow is not going to have much of a base, either for off-piste or touring (it will be bashed into concrete on the ski stations, not very nice but at least skiable).

A few routes are allegedly coming in in the Vallon du Diable, not that that is normally thought of as La Grave, also it is clearly still very, very bare generally, while descriptions of those few routes talk of belays being unreachable as the ice is so much lower than usual.

Contact me later the time if you want more detail, but it still does not look good for ANY mountain activity at the moment, nor is it showing great signs of improving at present. 13 degrees in Grenoble today, should normally be at least -2, -5 at night.
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 Simon4 19 Dec 2014
In reply to Roberttaylor:

http://www.ice-fall.com/ri/Conditions/de/glace/307.aspx

The colour of a particular area indicates when it was updated, i.e. when they went in to have a look. Green is best, yellow getting out of date.

Unfortunately La Grave is red - last update in February!
 AdrianC 19 Dec 2014
In reply to Roberttaylor: There's some pleasant touring on the north side of the valley, assuming the snow line's low enough. Starting from Le Chazelet there's quite a bit of terrain to go at and you used to be able to get a one way lift pass for a few euros. It's a nice ski down into Valfroide with various options for getting back to the road from there.


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