In reply to Mick Ward:
> Re context, rather than the logic of your argument: you do realise the kind of stuff John's done?
Clearly he doesn't but, with respect to John and his achievements, resorting to "do you know who he is?" style of discussion means that the point has not been made clearly enough (or, is too complex to make?!)
I think the principal confusion in the whole matter is not that the climbers have been jugging up to their high point (something which is quite common on big walls, as John mentions), but that
i) they have fixed lines running up and down the whole route, so can access any part of it at will, and
ii) early on they were abbing
down to their high point from their mid-heigh ledge camp. (As explained clearly here
http://www.elcapreport.com/content/elcap-report-12282014-special-dawn-wall-... ).
I think several people find this confusing.
It is doubly confusing in that they appear to be content to 'team lead' the easier pitches, but both wish to lead the hard pitches. (Except for Tommy, who has chosen not to try the infamous dyno pitch).
The key point, however, is that they are trying to lead each pitch, from the bottom to the top, and not progressing to the next pitch until ticking the previous one without falls. Furthermore, they are being almost painfully honest about the style they are employing.
Personally, I think the whole adventure is awesome, in every sense of the word, and I'm looking forward to seeing the film!
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