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Just watched this. would someone return my two hours please.
 aln 10 Feb 2015
In reply to TheDrunkenBakers:

1st film? Fantastic.
 Radioactiveman 10 Feb 2015
In reply to TheDrunkenBakers:

Great film,worth it for the shower scene alone
 Pete Houghton 10 Feb 2015
In reply to TheDrunkenBakers:

One of the finest modern works of satire.
 Clarence 10 Feb 2015
In reply to TheDrunkenBakers:

Classic Verhoeven, love the adverts.
 sbc_10 11 Feb 2015
In reply to TheDrunkenBakers:

The only good bug is a dead bug.
 Skyfall 11 Feb 2015
In reply to TheDrunkenBakers:

Modern USA take note...
 douwe 11 Feb 2015
In reply to TheDrunkenBakers:

Great movie. Seen it twice.
 goose299 11 Feb 2015
In reply to TheDrunkenBakers:

The first one is fantastic. They do steadily get worse.
I hear there's a fourth one out now too
andrew breckill 11 Feb 2015
In reply to TheDrunkenBakers:

'Its a bug planet, an ugly planet. '

1st ones a classic.
andrew breckill 11 Feb 2015
In reply to Skyfall:
I think that's the satire part, its based on modern USA.
moffatross 11 Feb 2015
In reply to andrew breckill:

I didn't think it was meant to be satirical, nor contemporary. It was written at a time when 'the reds' amongst others were some of the USA's public enemies, all libertarian views were 'suspect', and I get the impression that Heinlein would have been a staunch Republican.

P.S. I've read a few Heinlein books, and some of them were fun, but he was a bit of a loony.
 The Potato 11 Feb 2015
In reply to TheDrunkenBakers:

I want to know more...
Removed User 11 Feb 2015
In reply to moffatross:

I believe the original book was not satirical i.e. written by a rightwing loon - but Verhoeven's take on it is.
 Simon Caldwell 11 Feb 2015
In reply to moffatross:

Heinlein was a libertarian - initially a left wing libertarian, later a right wing libertarian.
And the film bears absolutely no relation to the book, other than the title and a few names.
moffatross 11 Feb 2015
I'd always got the impression that while some may have thought he was a 'libertarian' through his positive depictions of incest and human eugenics, in most respects, he just came across as a right-wing nutter. I'm sure he was a loyal friend to many causes though, I'd guess the National Rifle Association being one of them.
 greg_may_ 11 Feb 2015
In reply to TheDrunkenBakers:

Excellent books, and a excellent adaptation as a film. No idea what the OP was on about.

AS for the latter films....well they ain't so good.
 Simon Caldwell 11 Feb 2015
In reply to greg_may_:

The film wasn't really an adaptation of the book. It was a pre-existing unrelated script called Bug Hunt at Outpost 9, which then had bits of Starship Troopers spliced into it.
http://www.fangoria.com/new/fango-flashback-starship-troopers-1997/
 Offwidth 11 Feb 2015
In reply to greg_may_:
I fully understand the OP and he's far from the first to express that view. Why people don't get taste is a varied thing is beyond me. I enjoyed it (although it's far from being great in my view) but am 'soft' on Sci-Fi stuff. As satires go I found it rather blunt and one-dimensional. I sort of enjoyed the sequel's: tongue-in-cheek 'cartoon-like' marketing exploitation 'n'all and worry about people who claim a huge difference in anything but budget related stuff from the first (in a similar sense to claims made for Highlander).
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 1poundSOCKS 11 Feb 2015
In reply to Offwidth:

> As satires go I found it rather blunt and one-dimensional

If we're talking dimensions, I'd give it at least 2. I think it works as a straight action movie, but it's also a commentary on American fascism. Do they count as dimensions?
 wercat 13 Feb 2015
In reply to 1poundSOCKS:

and a general warning against having anyone's patriotism manipulated by militarists/empire builders.
 1poundSOCKS 13 Feb 2015
In reply to wercat:

Three dimensions and counting...
 john arran 13 Feb 2015
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> and a general warning against having anyone's patriotism manipulated by militarists/empire builders.

Is there any other purpose of patriotism?
 rogerwebb 13 Feb 2015
In reply to john arran:

> Is there any other purpose of patriotism?

defence of liberty?

(O'Connell, Parnell, Max Manus, Simon Bolivar among others may have felt patriotism had a positive aspect)
 1poundSOCKS 13 Feb 2015
In reply to john arran:

> Is there any other purpose of patriotism?

People tend to do better for themselves by forming groups and working together. Patriotism is just a name for how we group together by country, and show loyalty to that group. Obviously it doesn't always lead to a nice happy existence for everyone.
 JamButty 13 Feb 2015
In reply to TheDrunkenBakers:

Great film, up there with Robocop for satire.....

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