In reply to jezb1:
Yeah, cruxes - don't think they ever really fitted me that well in all honesty, or maybe I expected a bit to much from them.
Oukmik - I think the reason those ones are cheaper is because they're not stealth. Although it might be the case they just don't have the branding (which means you look less cool)
Cheers for the advice, I'm going to get some - ultimately I'll just end up with a pair of expensive trainers if they're pants outdoors.