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Grant Shapps, the threat of libel action for telling the truth.

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 Timmd 17 Mar 2015

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/mar/16/revealed-grant-shapps-threa...

It seems somebody posted on facebook about Grant Shapps having a different 'business name' while he was also an MP, and Grant Shapps threatened to seek damages for defamation, and it''s actually turned out to be true, that he did have a different business name while he was an MP.
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 The New NickB 17 Mar 2015
In reply to Timmd:

Michael Green. Been fairly well known for years, amazed he threatened to sue, but he has done worse.
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 toad 17 Mar 2015
In reply to Timmd:

I think the thing that is really telling is that no one seems that bothered by the nature of Green Shapps business.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/shortcuts/2015/mar/16/grant-shapps-busi...
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KevinD 17 Mar 2015
In reply to toad:

> I think the thing that is really telling is that no one seems that bothered by the nature of Green Shapps business.

Its interesting seeing some media outlets being rather vague about what it was.
Especially the BBC. The telegraph are almost as muted.
The Mail on the other hand doesnt mess around with "get rich quick" salesman and so forth.
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 dread-i 17 Mar 2015
In reply to toad:
>I think the thing that is really telling is that no one seems that bothered by the nature of Green Shapps business.

Next you'll be telling me that being a low life, lying, spammer is not one of the personality traits lauded by the tories.

http://searchengineland.com/uk-conservative-party-chair-founded-google-spam...
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2012/sep/02/grant-shapps-google-howtoco...

Tricking the rich out of money is seen as a bad thing, especially by the tories. Unless its those tax dodging, pinko, lefties google, in which case its ok.
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 Dave Garnett 17 Mar 2015
In reply to dissonance:

> Its interesting seeing some media outlets being rather vague about what it was.

In the clip of him explaining his online products that was broadcast it became clear that in the nomenclature he used 'SR1', 'SR2' etc, 'SR' stood for 'Stinking Rich'.

I'd always thought Grant Shapps looked like Alan B'Stard. Apparently he talks and thinks like him too.

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 Rob Exile Ward 17 Mar 2015
In reply to Dave Garnett:

There must surely be some mathematical formula that inversely relates the strength of a Tory's protestation that he is telling the truth ('I definitely did not work elsewhere after 2005') to the probability that he is telling the truth. Archer, Hamilton and the other creepy one -Aitken - fitted the pattern as well.

Yes I know that Labour politicians tell lies but compared to this lot they're just amateurs.
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KevinD 17 Mar 2015
In reply to dread-i:

> Next you'll be telling me that being a low life, lying, spammer is not one of the personality traits lauded by the tories.

apparently his only sin is to write books about how to create wealth.

https://twitter.com/Jeremy_Hunt/status/577375616737153024

Hunt seemingly out to do his best to encourage people to mispronounce his name.
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In reply to Rob Exile Ward:

> There must surely be some mathematical formula that inversely relates the strength of a Tory's protestation that he is telling the truth ('I definitely did not work elsewhere after 2005') to the probability that he is telling the truth.

Remember, in his eyes, he didn't lie at all. He 'over firmly denied'!

He's so creepy he's off the scale really.
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 dread-i 17 Mar 2015
In reply to Dave Garnett:
>I'd always thought Grant Shapps looked like Alan B'Stard.

He was good in Peep Show, though.
Grant Shapps
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/PtJt8Q8HDwY/0.jpg

Robert Webb
http://goo.gl/rKWSLS
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 Dave Garnett 17 Mar 2015
In reply to Rob Exile Ward:
> There must surely be some mathematical formula that inversely relates the strength of a Tory's protestation that he is telling the truth ('I definitely did not work elsewhere after 2005') to the probability that he is telling the truth. Archer, Hamilton and the other creepy one -Aitken - fitted the pattern as well.

Yes, wasn't Archer a chairman of the party too? I guess they were all lying shits in different ways.

Archer was a fantasist who couldn't believe he'd managed to blag his way into wealth, fame and the fragrant Mary's bed - he kind of knew he'd be found out and couldn't believe how long it took.

Hamilton was a repulsive amoral narcissist who thought that just about anything he did was OK because he was entitled to it (his wife ditto with added rhinoceros hide and an intellect to match).

Aitken was (is) a self-righteous prig who told a convenient small lie that turned into a series of bigger ones that got him sent down so he could find God (how f*cking predictable) and, worse, was perfectly happy to implicate his family members in his dishonesty. (A bit like Chris Huhne now I come to think of it).

Shapps appears to be a straightforward greedy dimwit with absolutely no moral scruples whatever.
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 MG 17 Mar 2015
In reply to Dave Garnett:
Nice summary!
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 Dave Garnett 17 Mar 2015
In reply to dread-i:

> Robert Webb

There's something a bit shifty about him too!

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 Rob Exile Ward 17 Mar 2015
In reply to Dave Garnett:
Not a fan then?
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Clauso 18 Mar 2015
In reply to Dave Garnett:

> I'd always thought Grant Shapps looked like Alan B'Stard. Apparently he talks and thinks like him too.

Only a B'Stard? How charitable.... Personally, the bloke's always struck me as being an utter C'unt.
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 Dave Garnett 18 Mar 2015
In reply to Rob Exile Ward:

> Not a fan then?

No, not really! It's depressing that someone as obviously B-list as Shapps could make to be party chairman, and that the party would think that he would be in any way attractive to any voter or donor except someone wanting to provide cash for access.

It seems to me that, as in the general population, there will always be politicians who lack the basic moral fibre to be truthful whatever happens. However, the Conservatives do seem to be over-represented by those who only lie when it's absolutely convenient.
 arctickev 18 Mar 2015
In reply to Timmd:

listening to him on LBC, the thing i find most amazing is that he seems comfortable with lies, then when found out he does a kind of about face "ok so it was a lie".

Listening to him on Shelagh Fogarty last week his statements were absolute...

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