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http://www.theguardian.com/culture/2015/aug/02/cilla-black-dies-aged-72
I can't say I was a particular fan but she has been part of the fabric of the nation for most of my life. Grew up to her singing "Alfie" on her Saturday night show and she was still there doing "Blind Date" thirty years later. My daughters didn't even realise she'd been a singer! Sort of assumed she'd go on being there for ever so strangely sad.
I can't say I was a particular fan but she has been part of the fabric of the nation for most of my life. Grew up to her singing "Alfie" on her Saturday night show and she was still there doing "Blind Date" thirty years later. My daughters didn't even realise she'd been a singer! Sort of assumed she'd go on being there for ever so strangely sad.
In reply to Postmanpat:
Remember seeing her in Harrod's food halls buying fish about 20 years ago and was utter shocked at how truely TINY she was. Was with what appeared to be her son who came across as a bit simple.
RIP.
Remember seeing her in Harrod's food halls buying fish about 20 years ago and was utter shocked at how truely TINY she was. Was with what appeared to be her son who came across as a bit simple.
RIP.
In reply to Postmanpat:
Yes I didn't realise she was a singer "voice like fingernails on a blackboard"
Yes I didn't realise she was a singer "voice like fingernails on a blackboard"
In reply to Postmanpat:
I said the same to my father, I didn't know she was famous as a singer before being a presenter. I was treated to half an hour of Cilla's greatest hits. It was interesting...
I said the same to my father, I didn't know she was famous as a singer before being a presenter. I was treated to half an hour of Cilla's greatest hits. It was interesting...
In reply to robert-hutton: She has the record of the best selling single in the UK by a female artist.
In reply to robert-hutton:
That's a bit harsh. She was not a patch on Dusty but could hold a tune.
> Yes I didn't realise she was a singer "voice like fingernails on a blackboard"
That's a bit harsh. She was not a patch on Dusty but could hold a tune.
In reply to Postmanpat:
I actually rather like her version of Anyone Who Had A Heart, was never a fan of her TV stuff, but I'm probably in a minority!
I actually rather like her version of Anyone Who Had A Heart, was never a fan of her TV stuff, but I'm probably in a minority!
In reply to The New NickB:
You're more in step with the people of that time then! I can still remember her coming on TV being announced as a newcomer - I would still have been a kid and I can remember my parents and the folks on the show being captivated by "Anyone who had a heart" and she seemed very young even to me then. I never watched her as a presenter and will always remember that song. Probably much too early for Top of the Pops but it might have been Juke Box Jury with David Jacobs, just before Dr Who.
just looked up the year - I'd have been 8, head full of Fireball XL5, Stingray, Dr Who and the space race and even a kid like that remembered her song!
You're more in step with the people of that time then! I can still remember her coming on TV being announced as a newcomer - I would still have been a kid and I can remember my parents and the folks on the show being captivated by "Anyone who had a heart" and she seemed very young even to me then. I never watched her as a presenter and will always remember that song. Probably much too early for Top of the Pops but it might have been Juke Box Jury with David Jacobs, just before Dr Who.
just looked up the year - I'd have been 8, head full of Fireball XL5, Stingray, Dr Who and the space race and even a kid like that remembered her song!
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In reply to robert-hutton:
She was very much part of that Liverpool 'Merseybeat' secene in the early 60s: she played the Cavern and was introduced to Brian Epstein by Lennon. Managed by Epstein she then had a string of hits - the first one was 'Love of the Loved' by Lennon/McCartney.
I remember that initial phase of her career well - I was a pop-mad teenager at the time - and I'm saddened to hear she's died.
> Yes I didn't realise she was a singer...
She was very much part of that Liverpool 'Merseybeat' secene in the early 60s: she played the Cavern and was introduced to Brian Epstein by Lennon. Managed by Epstein she then had a string of hits - the first one was 'Love of the Loved' by Lennon/McCartney.
I remember that initial phase of her career well - I was a pop-mad teenager at the time - and I'm saddened to hear she's died.
In reply to Postmanpat:
Of all the people who could have something bad to say about the passing of Our Cilla, who do you think it could be?
Katie Hopkins.
Vile creature, that she is.
Of all the people who could have something bad to say about the passing of Our Cilla, who do you think it could be?
Katie Hopkins.
Vile creature, that she is.
In reply to The Lemming:
Oh? Sad that I only know of this Katie Hopkins as being a thing who only seeks to spread negativity and nastiness around about just about anybody. How low that she has to say nasty things of the dead.
I only knew Cilla from Blind Date - used to watch that at my grandparents on a Saturday night before we went back home.
Oh? Sad that I only know of this Katie Hopkins as being a thing who only seeks to spread negativity and nastiness around about just about anybody. How low that she has to say nasty things of the dead.
I only knew Cilla from Blind Date - used to watch that at my grandparents on a Saturday night before we went back home.
In reply to Postmanpat:
Totally agree. Sad that she's gone. Would have thought she'd have been good for another 15 years. Yet another reminder to all of us to live each day as fully as we can...
Mick
> That's a bit harsh. She was not a patch on Dusty but could hold a tune.
Totally agree. Sad that she's gone. Would have thought she'd have been good for another 15 years. Yet another reminder to all of us to live each day as fully as we can...
Mick
In reply to Clarence:
I couldn't tell you what shows she presented so she was a singer first and foremost to me.
She was in an era of female pop singers of varying styles and ability;- Dusty Springfield, Sandy Shaw, Lulu, Alma Cogan, Helen Shapiro, Marianne Faithful etc...
Her singing was a bit strident but at least there was a semblance of melody in what she did.
You come across as a trifle snide about her talents. Perhaps it's a generation thing.
I couldn't tell you what shows she presented so she was a singer first and foremost to me.
She was in an era of female pop singers of varying styles and ability;- Dusty Springfield, Sandy Shaw, Lulu, Alma Cogan, Helen Shapiro, Marianne Faithful etc...
Her singing was a bit strident but at least there was a semblance of melody in what she did.
You come across as a trifle snide about her talents. Perhaps it's a generation thing.
In reply to The Lemming:
Surprise Surprise
> Of all the people who could have something bad to say about the passing of Our Cilla, who do you think it could be?
> Katie Hopkins.
Surprise Surprise
In reply to Postmanpat:
Not heard much of her for years, quintessential 80's/90's Saturday tea time with Cilla, takes me back
Surprise Surpriiiiiiiise! Hope you have a lorra lorra laughs!
RIP
Not heard much of her for years, quintessential 80's/90's Saturday tea time with Cilla, takes me back
Surprise Surpriiiiiiiise! Hope you have a lorra lorra laughs!
RIP
In reply to Trangia:
Hated her fake working class scouser celeb presenter schtick. Truly awful. Terrible singer and Tarbies bessie. Legendary kunt to anyone she deemed to be a civilian it has been written. Just for balance.
D
Hated her fake working class scouser celeb presenter schtick. Truly awful. Terrible singer and Tarbies bessie. Legendary kunt to anyone she deemed to be a civilian it has been written. Just for balance.
D
In reply to Mick Ward:
I remember reading an article where she said she wanted to be gone by 70 as she didn't want to just grow old and fade into nothing relying on people to keep her alive (or words to that effect).
I remember reading an article where she said she wanted to be gone by 70 as she didn't want to just grow old and fade into nothing relying on people to keep her alive (or words to that effect).
In reply to Dauphin:
When she was given a record contract the label put her up in a hotel in London and as she was so young they made sure she had a telephone to call home and speak to her Mum. All Cilla could do was look at it as none of her family or anyone she knew had one.
That was one of many stories from a Radio 2 special done on Cilla I listened to a few months ago. I thought she came across as a genuine girl off the street who made it big, good on her.
> Hated her fake working class scouser celeb presenter schtick.
When she was given a record contract the label put her up in a hotel in London and as she was so young they made sure she had a telephone to call home and speak to her Mum. All Cilla could do was look at it as none of her family or anyone she knew had one.
That was one of many stories from a Radio 2 special done on Cilla I listened to a few months ago. I thought she came across as a genuine girl off the street who made it big, good on her.
In reply to Steve Perry:
indeed, 3 digit phone numbers were still quite the norm where I lived in the late 60s and into the 70s. "Hello, this is Stanhope 350..." STD meant something quite different and was something you were pleased to get then!
Can I add Shirley Bassey to the list of women singers someone mentioned above?
indeed, 3 digit phone numbers were still quite the norm where I lived in the late 60s and into the 70s. "Hello, this is Stanhope 350..." STD meant something quite different and was something you were pleased to get then!
Can I add Shirley Bassey to the list of women singers someone mentioned above?
In reply to Tom Valentine:
Not snide at all, it was just music I had never heard before. I didn't like it but then again I don't like any of my dad's music and he positively hates mine.
> You come across as a trifle snide about her talents. Perhaps it's a generation thing.
Not snide at all, it was just music I had never heard before. I didn't like it but then again I don't like any of my dad's music and he positively hates mine.
In reply to Dauphin:
Her dead body isn't even cold yet....... wot a cnut ...."Just for balance"
> Hated her fake working class scouser celeb presenter schtick. Truly awful. Terrible singer and Tarbies bessie. Legendary kunt to anyone she deemed to be a civilian it has been written. Just for balance.
> D
Her dead body isn't even cold yet....... wot a cnut ...."Just for balance"
In reply to chris fox:
How terribly sad. I know a guy who's 87. Admittedly he's not in the best of health and probably hasn't got an awful lot longer. But... he's loved by his wife, his kids, his grandkids, his great-grandkids. Every day of his life he gives and receives love. Because his wife and he brought their kids up with great care, the whole lot of them are happy, well-balanced folk - no dysfunctionality at all.
By rights he should have died 60 years ago, when he was 17. Joined the Navy under-age in WW11. Ended up on the Murmansk convoys. Horrific hardship. Chances of survival negligible - but he did survive. After that, he was headed for Japan. Was saved by the Nagasaki bomb. His ship would almost certainly have been hit by suicide pilots the next day; with the Japanese surrender, they were stood down. And now, here he is, all these years later.
David Hooper, late of this parish, once mentioned to me that, for him, the point of life was a) to have fun and b) to leave the world a slightly better place. David succeeded on both counts; as will the guy above. Cilla Black gave a lot of people a lot of pleasure; that's not a bad epitaph. I hope she had some fun along the way.
Mick
> I remember reading an article where she said she wanted to be gone by 70 as she didn't want to just grow old and fade into nothing relying on people to keep her alive (or words to that effect).
How terribly sad. I know a guy who's 87. Admittedly he's not in the best of health and probably hasn't got an awful lot longer. But... he's loved by his wife, his kids, his grandkids, his great-grandkids. Every day of his life he gives and receives love. Because his wife and he brought their kids up with great care, the whole lot of them are happy, well-balanced folk - no dysfunctionality at all.
By rights he should have died 60 years ago, when he was 17. Joined the Navy under-age in WW11. Ended up on the Murmansk convoys. Horrific hardship. Chances of survival negligible - but he did survive. After that, he was headed for Japan. Was saved by the Nagasaki bomb. His ship would almost certainly have been hit by suicide pilots the next day; with the Japanese surrender, they were stood down. And now, here he is, all these years later.
David Hooper, late of this parish, once mentioned to me that, for him, the point of life was a) to have fun and b) to leave the world a slightly better place. David succeeded on both counts; as will the guy above. Cilla Black gave a lot of people a lot of pleasure; that's not a bad epitaph. I hope she had some fun along the way.
Mick
In reply to Mick Ward:
It seems she said it quite a few times during interviews over the years.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/cilla-black-spoke-death-growing-...
I'm sure she had plenty of fun through her life, she lost her husband a few years ago so i guess that was a big part of her gone (i say guess as i have not been in that situation)
It seems she said it quite a few times during interviews over the years.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/cilla-black-spoke-death-growing-...
I'm sure she had plenty of fun through her life, she lost her husband a few years ago so i guess that was a big part of her gone (i say guess as i have not been in that situation)
In reply to Dauphin:
Had also read that she was not the most pleasant of individuals; epic diva when on airliners and in the vicinity of minions.
Balance is a good thing .keeps it real.
> Hated her fake working class scouser celeb presenter schtick. Truly awful. Terrible singer and Tarbies bessie. Legendary kunt to anyone she deemed to be a civilian it has been written. Just for balance.
> D
Had also read that she was not the most pleasant of individuals; epic diva when on airliners and in the vicinity of minions.
Balance is a good thing .keeps it real.
In reply to andymac:
Just for a bit more balance then, I met her in the late '70s, when I was a young reporter escorting a couple who had won a prize to meet her after a show. They were star-struck and tongue-tied, she was utterly natural and charming and did a lot to put them at their ease, going much further than just the PR minimum. Seemed a nice person to me.
> Had also read that she was not the most pleasant of individuals; epic diva when on airliners and in the vicinity of minions.
> Balance is a good thing .keeps it real.
Just for a bit more balance then, I met her in the late '70s, when I was a young reporter escorting a couple who had won a prize to meet her after a show. They were star-struck and tongue-tied, she was utterly natural and charming and did a lot to put them at their ease, going much further than just the PR minimum. Seemed a nice person to me.
In reply to Postmanpat:
I've lived out of the UK for over 30 years, but one thing I could always count on if I returned 'home' would be to find Cilla on the TV Saturday night !
To those who claim she had no voice: her live interpretation of 'Anyone Who Had A Heart' surely IMHO proves otherwise.
youtube.com/watch?v=ykd7172CUeA&
RIP Cilla, from a woolyback who once had the immense pleasure to meet you.
I've lived out of the UK for over 30 years, but one thing I could always count on if I returned 'home' would be to find Cilla on the TV Saturday night !
To those who claim she had no voice: her live interpretation of 'Anyone Who Had A Heart' surely IMHO proves otherwise.
youtube.com/watch?v=ykd7172CUeA&
RIP Cilla, from a woolyback who once had the immense pleasure to meet you.
In reply to OMR:
I guess one of the difficulties of being famous is that you are no longer allowed to be human and have off-days like the rest of us.
In reply to the rest of the thread in general:
Maybe she was, or wasn't an unpleasant cow and diva off camera but FFS the woman's not even in the ground yet. She wasn't Hitler/Savile/insert preferred epitome of all evil.
I guess one of the difficulties of being famous is that you are no longer allowed to be human and have off-days like the rest of us.
In reply to the rest of the thread in general:
Maybe she was, or wasn't an unpleasant cow and diva off camera but FFS the woman's not even in the ground yet. She wasn't Hitler/Savile/insert preferred epitome of all evil.
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In reply to Mick Ward:
I was thinking of David earlier today for absolutely no reason. I only reason chatted to him later on - he said he'd show me some of the nicer paths around the Goyt Valley when he got better. Seemed like a nice chap and sad that I never got the chance to meet him in person.
> David Hooper, late of this parish, once mentioned to me that, for him, the point of life was a) to have fun and b) to leave the world a slightly better place. David succeeded on both counts; as will the guy above. Cilla Black gave a lot of people a lot of pleasure; that's not a bad epitaph. I hope she had some fun along the way.
I was thinking of David earlier today for absolutely no reason. I only reason chatted to him later on - he said he'd show me some of the nicer paths around the Goyt Valley when he got better. Seemed like a nice chap and sad that I never got the chance to meet him in person.
In reply to Removed User:
Don't recall seeing anyone comparing her to Hitler or the Devil Incarnate.
> I guess one of the difficulties of being famous is that you are no longer allowed to be human and have off-days like the rest of us.
> In reply to Removed Userthe rest of the thread in general:
> Maybe she was, or wasn't an unpleasant cow and diva off camera but FFS the woman's not even in the ground yet. She wasn't Hitler/Savile/insert preferred epitome of all evil.
Don't recall seeing anyone comparing her to Hitler or the Devil Incarnate.
In reply to andymac:
Me neither, nor did I suggest anyone had. My point was that speaking ill of the recently deceased on here is, imho, poor form and rather cheap talk, unless it is about someone 'special' like my two examples above.
Me neither, nor did I suggest anyone had. My point was that speaking ill of the recently deceased on here is, imho, poor form and rather cheap talk, unless it is about someone 'special' like my two examples above.
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