In reply to GravitySucks:
> I had assumed as much (but you know what assume does ) Hopefully an 80m rope should cater for most eventualities !
I'm sure you'll be fine on most routes with 80m ropes.
And remember, 50m cave climb might not be more than 20 to 30m above the deck.
Not that I could get up a 50m cave/roof climb... but sill.