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It probably been done to death, however. However I think tomorrow should be a National holiday.

If you don't know why, its all the more reason it should be.

The pomp that happens on the Sunday, is jingoistic sabre rattling.
It is not a reflection of the lives stolen, that's stolen not given,

In reply to Name Changed 34:

Bollocks.
I attended my local cenotaph and it was a subdued, thoughtful ceremony.
To imply that people who attend these functions are jingoistic sabre rattlers is offensive, especially to those who have lost a loved one in some conflict or other.

In reply to Name Changed 34:

I think a national holiday would give the wrong idea especially to kids.

In reply to Tom Valentine:




Sorry,that's not what I said, or an trying to imply, the event is jingoistic.
Can we not just quietly remember? walk by,leave a poppy, sit, or stand, we all know why we are there, do we need instruction in this?

The point was why on the Sunday ? is it to much to ask UK to remember on a working day

In reply to Name Changed 34:

Disregarding your comment about "jingoistic sabre rattling" (---Is that really what the tune "Nimrod" and the words of "For the Fallen " suggest to you?) I agree that quietly remembering the horrors of war is a suitable way of addressing the subject.
A lot of places will observe a two minute silence on the working day, not compulsory, though; once you make it a statutory holiday (which seems rather celebratory to me) you remove a large element of people's choice.

In reply to Name Changed 34:
I've often wondered why we have both Armistice Day AND Remembrance Sunday. It would make sense to combine the two into one as a National Holiday (unless it coincides with a Sunday) on 11th Nov with Acts of Remembrance at war memorials throughout the country at 11 am.

This is what happens in France.

In reply to Name Changed 34:

Which national (bank) holiday would you sacrifice for this?

Personally I'm against your suggestion, and more so against your use of the term done to death on such a thread.

My Mum lost her Dad in the 2WW and I lost a friend in a more recent conflict, I choose to consider their sacrifice in a personal way (with a dram of single malt, a few photos and sometimes a few tears) I don't need to be told how and when to celebrate their lives.

In reply to Tom Valentine:



once you make it a statutory holiday (which seems rather celebratory to me) you remove a large element of people's choice.

That is a very valid point

In reply to Tony the Blade:

term xxxxxxxxxxxx on such a thread

Yes that's totally inappropriate. and to late for me to edit.
sorry

In reply to Name Changed 34:

Gathering at our local churchyard on Remembrance Sunday or pausing for a couple of minutes before a sporting event, or taking part in a Remembrance Parade, as I did in the RAF, has never borne any resemblance to your OP.

And no, a holiday is not a good idea.

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No worries

In reply to Name Changed 34:

I think it's good that we are in school, it means we stop for the silence and the children learn about it. Otherwise if it was a holiday they would be asleep or shopping or something.

In reply to marsbar:

Indeed. My classes always began at 1050, and stoping it at 1100 was a pain (if I had bottom set Y11 it was quite a test of my classroom management skills), but ye gods we stopped.

In reply to marsbar:


You're dead right. A holiday would be absolutely wrong in every way.

In reply to Name Changed 34:


Having a State-sanctioned national day of recognition for the State's role in the wounding and death of its citizens seems rather contradictory. Not that that necessarily makes it a bad idea, but a bit difficult to know how to approach it

In reply to Name Changed 34:

http://www.trueactivist.com/watch-the-moment-british-soldiers-throw-war-med...

In reply to Trangia:


The commemoration of Armistice Day predates that of Remembrance Sunday, having been started formally in 1919. In the UK the remembrance was moved to a Sunday during the Second World War so that the state didn't lose 2 minutes of wartime production ( sounds ridiculous, but I suppose 2 minutes multiplied by millions of workers is quite a lot of work ).