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 climbin_chris 23 Dec 2015
Hi guys,

I am looking for some personal experience/ advice from any junior doctors out there who have worked in wales.
I have applied to work in wales for my FY1 year (that decision is now fixed).

One of the main reasoning behind choosing wales is that I would like to be closer to some climbing and outdoor activities. I can imagine that the preceding years are going to be somewhat stressful and very busy so being able to escape outdoors when possible is important to me.

I am often met with some negativity when saying that I have chosen wales, yet when I speak to medics who have worked there, they are generally quite positive about their experiences.

I have very little knowledge about the different health boards throughout wales and I am finding it difficult to know how to make an informed decision as to which one to apply to.

I want to ensure that I get good educational experience during my foundation years. I am still unclear as to what area that I would like to specialise in but I am certainly keen to try and gain Jobs in: A+E, Paediatrics, Trauma and Orthopaedics, Respiratory medicine and General Surgery over the two years.

In terms of climbing I generally sport climb and boulder. Although climbing is important to me, equally, I do not want to hamper any career progression as some people have suggested I might.

Any experiences, good or bad that you can share or any good sources of information regarding training satisfaction among the different welsh health boards would be greatly appreciated.

Feel free email me at Chris.lancaster84@gmail.com

Many thanks,

Chris
 fi89 23 Dec 2015
In reply to climbin_chris:

Hi Chris,
YHM
 ben b 23 Dec 2015
In reply to climbin_chris:

Medical training in Wales (at least when I was doing ICU training in Wrexham many years go) splits South Wales (where the 'power base' of medicine in Wales sits, such as it is) and the N wales A55 corridor which drains more towards the Mersey. Back in those days if I had pursued anaesthesia/ICU I would have had to rotate through the major centres in the south, unless there have been significant changes I don't think that will change. You can get a fair amount of experience rotating between Ysbwty Gwynedd, Ysbytwy Glan Clwyd and Ysbwty Maelor but not higher level specialist experience needed for advanced training. All three are, I think, looked on as poor relations by the Cardiff/Swansea axis. To spend some time there won't be career limiting, but to spend all training there probably would be. Obviously this only applies for specialist hospital training - GP training being a different beast altogether (and I gather pretty good in the north).

You will need to talk to someone in the Deanery about the geography of their training schemes, and these days sadly you need to choose a career path quite early... the days when hospital careers could be built around where you fancied living are long gone!

From personal experience Wrexham was good as the road links are excellent - weekend trips across to Cadair Idris or Snowdonia and evenings on limestone at World's End and longer trips to Scotland were all possible despite the hours (most things being possible when young and foolish!). In hindsight I wouldn't have driven as much when tired though...

PM me if you want - also try emailing Thickhead on here, who trained in N Wales...
Removed User 23 Dec 2015
In reply to climbin_chris:

Don't bother mate unless you want to be associated with the train wreak that is the Welsh NHS. Seriously read the CQC reports and feedback from the relevant deanery.
OP climbin_chris 23 Dec 2015
In reply to Removed UserDeleted bagger:

Thank you for your post. I will look into them.

Chris
OP climbin_chris 23 Dec 2015
In reply to ben b:

Hi Ben thank you for your message. I will drop you a PM.

Chris
 jepotherepo 23 Dec 2015
In reply to climbin_chris:

Youre unlikely to be disadvantaged by completing your foundation training in wales. Only downside will be if you want to join a super competitive speciality - being close to mountains may be a significant drain on your time and cash! I did mine in chester and spent lots of time in Snowdonia and the Clwyds! Just don't work in the south - your much closer to decent climbing from Ysbytwy Gwyneth or Glan Clwyd. Having said that, Cardiff is fun place to work too. Enjoy!
In reply to climbin_chris:
Contact Linda Dykes at Ysbyty Gwynedd in Bangor, or join Mountain Medicine Bangor on Facebook.

Ysbyty gwynedd /Betsi Cadwaladr Trust have a very active interest in outdoor A&E (lots of published hill/climb casualty studies; v close links with MRT), with (iirc) opportunities to study in New Zealand as well as being based within 30 minutes of all the major trad and sport climbing venues of Snowdonia / Anglesey / North Wales Limestone and many staff members involved in outdoor stuff.

Oh, and bear in mind that Welsh Assembly government means that Wales is a "Hunt free zone" !
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Thickhead 25 Dec 2015
In reply to climbin_chris:

As per Ben's note above I trained in North Wales (GP) having been born and for the most part raised in the area.

The experience of secondary care was variable, reasonable enough on the whole for GP training but certainly specialist training would involve been spread across Wales, with no good transport links between north and south.

I would probably head for South Wales if you intend to be a hospital specialist.

Feel free to e-mail me.
 icnoble 26 Dec 2015
In reply to climbin_chris:

You won't have the time to climb!


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