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Hey all.
The pad is in need of a lick of paint and I really can't face doing it again. Ive never paid someone else to paint for me before so how much should I expect to pay and what are the things I should consider/be wary of?
There are about 3-4 rooms, two of which are decent sizes, which are currently painted. The walls are plasterboard and in good order. There's a bit of glossing too. Should I get a bill per day or per room?
The pad is in need of a lick of paint and I really can't face doing it again. Ive never paid someone else to paint for me before so how much should I expect to pay and what are the things I should consider/be wary of?
There are about 3-4 rooms, two of which are decent sizes, which are currently painted. The walls are plasterboard and in good order. There's a bit of glossing too. Should I get a bill per day or per room?
In reply to TheDrunkenBakers:
Get a few prices. Don't pay someone by the hour they will just milk it.
Get a few prices. Don't pay someone by the hour they will just milk it.
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In reply to TheDrunkenBakers:
It will be expensive if my experience is anything to go by. Glosswork will probably bump up the price a lot as that takes time to dry and can't be slapped on as quickly as emulsion
It will be expensive if my experience is anything to go by. Glosswork will probably bump up the price a lot as that takes time to dry and can't be slapped on as quickly as emulsion
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In reply to TheDrunkenBakers:
There are many helpful websites which give local averages [they say London costs more] for what you should pay: I don't want to recommend a site because I easily found several on Google about a week ago when I had the same question as you (I entered "how much does it cost to decorate a room?" or some such search phrase).
Good luck!
> .....how much should I expect to pay....
There are many helpful websites which give local averages [they say London costs more] for what you should pay: I don't want to recommend a site because I easily found several on Google about a week ago when I had the same question as you (I entered "how much does it cost to decorate a room?" or some such search phrase).
Good luck!
In reply to TheDrunkenBakers:
I pay about £300 per room. Money well sent in my opinion. Fecking hate decorating.
I pay about £300 per room. Money well sent in my opinion. Fecking hate decorating.
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In reply to TheDrunkenBakers:
There are sites out there where tradesmen bid on jobs like my hammer and my builder. You say what the job involves even take some pictures as well.
The job goes live and all the tradesmen who are in the area get to bid in the job. I have had plenty jobs through them both, bad tradesmen don't last long on them as the feedback soon finds them out.
Facebook is another way of finding a suitable tradesmen.
There are sites out there where tradesmen bid on jobs like my hammer and my builder. You say what the job involves even take some pictures as well.
The job goes live and all the tradesmen who are in the area get to bid in the job. I have had plenty jobs through them both, bad tradesmen don't last long on them as the feedback soon finds them out.
Facebook is another way of finding a suitable tradesmen.
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In reply to TheDrunkenBakers:
I used a decorator about 6 years ago, he charged £20 per hour plus material's.
He didn't spin it out and painted the walls, ceiling and glossed the doors and skirting boards in our living room in 1 day, it was a large room in an old terraced house with high ceilings and 2 bay windows plus alcoves.
I couldn't do it in that time.
I used a decorator about 6 years ago, he charged £20 per hour plus material's.
He didn't spin it out and painted the walls, ceiling and glossed the doors and skirting boards in our living room in 1 day, it was a large room in an old terraced house with high ceilings and 2 bay windows plus alcoves.
I couldn't do it in that time.
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In reply to Dax H:
£20 per hour?. You can get a plumber or electrician for that amount. Painters get about £11 per hour on the books.
I wouldn't pay any painter and decorator that amount.
£20 per hour?. You can get a plumber or electrician for that amount. Painters get about £11 per hour on the books.
I wouldn't pay any painter and decorator that amount.
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In reply to TheDrunkenBakers:
I'm a painter and decorator by trade and not a window cleaner lol, I would charge £220 a room and that's 2 coats on celings,2 coats on walls undercoat and gloss and materials included. I only use trade paint from local depot not the average joes paint from b&q
I'm a painter and decorator by trade and not a window cleaner lol, I would charge £220 a room and that's 2 coats on celings,2 coats on walls undercoat and gloss and materials included. I only use trade paint from local depot not the average joes paint from b&q
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In reply to ryan p:
Dax's guy seems good and fast, maybe worth the money. I've seen enough bad decorating to not begrudge a good decorator earning a half decent living. Good plumbers also earn a lot more than £20 an hour.
Dax's guy seems good and fast, maybe worth the money. I've seen enough bad decorating to not begrudge a good decorator earning a half decent living. Good plumbers also earn a lot more than £20 an hour.
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In reply to The New NickB:
Every plumber I know charges £20 an hour, except big companies who rip the backside out of it. I think the most expensive company here are £40 ph No painter would get away with that amount. Crikey I lived in London for a year and the wages down there are worse than up here.
Every plumber I know charges £20 an hour, except big companies who rip the backside out of it. I think the most expensive company here are £40 ph No painter would get away with that amount. Crikey I lived in London for a year and the wages down there are worse than up here.
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In reply to Taff2509:
660 for 3 rooms is a good price. I would skim them for that amount as well with material supplied by me. Price work is the way to make money.
660 for 3 rooms is a good price. I would skim them for that amount as well with material supplied by me. Price work is the way to make money.
In reply to TheDrunkenBakers:
£2000 for external painting including materials and that 3 coats of dulux weather shield trade, I had a price off a company in Swansea do the outside of mine! Never been painted dashed semi £5000!!!!!! I laughed in the guy's face! He said that the product they used guaranteed 15yr life🤔 So I checked their product and its marine grade paint😬 So my house walls would not breath and that I turn would cause internal problems!!! ££££££££
£2000 for external painting including materials and that 3 coats of dulux weather shield trade, I had a price off a company in Swansea do the outside of mine! Never been painted dashed semi £5000!!!!!! I laughed in the guy's face! He said that the product they used guaranteed 15yr life🤔 So I checked their product and its marine grade paint😬 So my house walls would not breath and that I turn would cause internal problems!!! ££££££££
In reply to ryan p:
On the books is very different from getting someone who's self employed. I charge £20 an hour and have done for years. Flat out busy.
On the books is very different from getting someone who's self employed. I charge £20 an hour and have done for years. Flat out busy.
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In reply to Taff2509:
'Bout right.....They never know if we only put one coat on the ceiling anyway. If it's flat it's flat.
Quick acrylic bosh round and gloss up. Done for half two. They're happy and I'm highly delighted.
'Bout right.....They never know if we only put one coat on the ceiling anyway. If it's flat it's flat.
Quick acrylic bosh round and gloss up. Done for half two. They're happy and I'm highly delighted.
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In reply to jimjimjim:
Not really selling your self here lol!!! And might find your self out of work 😬
Not really selling your self here lol!!! And might find your self out of work 😬
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In reply to jimjimjim:
1 coat with white paint ? Lol your sound rough. My dad's a real painter ad decorator he would never 1 got white. Maybe magnolia but never white.
1 coat with white paint ? Lol your sound rough. My dad's a real painter ad decorator he would never 1 got white. Maybe magnolia but never white.
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In reply to Taff2509:
The only way your house will breath is if the render is done with a sand and lime render, highly breathable. Any sand and cement rendering will never breath. This is a serious problem with sand cement renders.
The only way your house will breath is if the render is done with a sand and lime render, highly breathable. Any sand and cement rendering will never breath. This is a serious problem with sand cement renders.
In reply to ryan p:
Jimjimjim must be a multi trades man 😱 Always check to see if they are part of the PDA painters and decorators association
Jimjimjim must be a multi trades man 😱 Always check to see if they are part of the PDA painters and decorators association
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In reply to ryan p:
I looked at that KREND!!!!!! Nasty stuff. Looks good for a day or two but then it hold mould and aglea! Some houses by me have it and there are red stains running down the KREND
I looked at that KREND!!!!!! Nasty stuff. Looks good for a day or two but then it hold mould and aglea! Some houses by me have it and there are red stains running down the KREND
In reply to Taff2509:
Krend is rubbish to work with and it's not a great product. There is lots of problems with it. The staining is due to not brushing it down after its been finished and little bits are left which gather water and the water gets dirty, parex is a good render and so is powerwall. They all have huge guarantees but for that guarantee to work the render has to be the right depth with the right key in the scratch coat.
In all honesty you can't beat a lime render.
Krend is rubbish to work with and it's not a great product. There is lots of problems with it. The staining is due to not brushing it down after its been finished and little bits are left which gather water and the water gets dirty, parex is a good render and so is powerwall. They all have huge guarantees but for that guarantee to work the render has to be the right depth with the right key in the scratch coat.
In all honesty you can't beat a lime render.
In reply to Taff2509:
I'm not part of any trade body or master tradesman bull shit. Most if which you pay to join. They're for people that need to advertise. If you're a one/ two / three man outfit and you've been doing it for over five years and you need to advertise you're doing something wrong.
All word of mouth or repeat work. Always busy for the last 19 years.
I think these new modern renders that come in a choice of colours so don't need paint seem good and perform well. The less outside work the better if you ask me. Too unpredictable with the weather and modern paint doesn't perform well. Especially since 2010
I'm not part of any trade body or master tradesman bull shit. Most if which you pay to join. They're for people that need to advertise. If you're a one/ two / three man outfit and you've been doing it for over five years and you need to advertise you're doing something wrong.
All word of mouth or repeat work. Always busy for the last 19 years.
I think these new modern renders that come in a choice of colours so don't need paint seem good and perform well. The less outside work the better if you ask me. Too unpredictable with the weather and modern paint doesn't perform well. Especially since 2010
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In reply to jimjimjim:
In reply to jimjimjim:
PDA AND GUILD OF MASTER TRADE MEN ARE NOT FOR ADVERTISEMENT PURPOSES.... PDA IS THERE FOR US PAINTERS & DECORATORS TO SECOND OUR WORKMANSHIP IF THE CUSTOMER THINKS ITS NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR THEM NOT TO PAY..... THEY GO TO COURT TO REPRESENT US PROFESSIONAL TRADES MEN IF IT CAME TO IT AND THEY CLAIM BACK THEIR FEES ASWEL AS OURS..... THIS HAPPEN TO ME 3 YEARS AGO WHEN A POLICE OFFICER I HAD DONE WORK FOR THOUGHT HE COULD GIVE IT THE BIG I AM!!!!! LOL LOW AND BEHOLD HE CAME OUT WORSE THANKS TO THE PDA, SO WHERE A £500 JOB TOTALED TO £3200 I HAD MY £500+40%. AS FOR ITS ONLY FOR ADVERTISEMENT AS YOU CALL IT IS BULLSHIT!! THE ONLY ADVERTISEMENT I HAVE IS 3 VANS, WEBSITE, SPONSOR FOR MY BOYS RUGBY TEAM AND SPONSOR OF LOCAL CHARITY.I ALSO EVERY 2 MONTHS GIVE 3 DAYS FREE FOR LOCAL CHARITY WORK I.E PEOPLE WHO WANT WORK FOND IN THIER HOMES BUT CANT AFFORD IT I WILL DO FOR NOTHING, ITS CALL PUTTING BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY.
In reply to jimjimjim:
PDA AND GUILD OF MASTER TRADE MEN ARE NOT FOR ADVERTISEMENT PURPOSES.... PDA IS THERE FOR US PAINTERS & DECORATORS TO SECOND OUR WORKMANSHIP IF THE CUSTOMER THINKS ITS NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR THEM NOT TO PAY..... THEY GO TO COURT TO REPRESENT US PROFESSIONAL TRADES MEN IF IT CAME TO IT AND THEY CLAIM BACK THEIR FEES ASWEL AS OURS..... THIS HAPPEN TO ME 3 YEARS AGO WHEN A POLICE OFFICER I HAD DONE WORK FOR THOUGHT HE COULD GIVE IT THE BIG I AM!!!!! LOL LOW AND BEHOLD HE CAME OUT WORSE THANKS TO THE PDA, SO WHERE A £500 JOB TOTALED TO £3200 I HAD MY £500+40%. AS FOR ITS ONLY FOR ADVERTISEMENT AS YOU CALL IT IS BULLSHIT!! THE ONLY ADVERTISEMENT I HAVE IS 3 VANS, WEBSITE, SPONSOR FOR MY BOYS RUGBY TEAM AND SPONSOR OF LOCAL CHARITY.I ALSO EVERY 2 MONTHS GIVE 3 DAYS FREE FOR LOCAL CHARITY WORK I.E PEOPLE WHO WANT WORK FOND IN THIER HOMES BUT CANT AFFORD IT I WILL DO FOR NOTHING, ITS CALL PUTTING BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY.
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In reply to The New NickB:
Exactly my guy does very good quality work, works fast, arrives when he says he will, leaves everything clean and tidy when he is finished.
Well worth paying a few quid more. Well he was, he had a sudden heart attack a few years back.
In my opinion £20ph is cheap.
Free estimations cost the tradesman money and everyone gets 3 quotes these days.
Tools cost money, Joe would spend more on a paintbrush than I would spend on a spanner. In the hands of a good painter a good brush = good quality work. Then there is the van to pay for plus administration expenses, paper and ink for quotes, phone bill, accountant or book keeper come tax time.
> Dax's guy seems good and fast, maybe worth the money. I've seen enough bad decorating to not begrudge a good decorator earning a half decent living. Good plumbers also earn a lot more than £20 an hour.
Exactly my guy does very good quality work, works fast, arrives when he says he will, leaves everything clean and tidy when he is finished.
Well worth paying a few quid more. Well he was, he had a sudden heart attack a few years back.
In my opinion £20ph is cheap.
Free estimations cost the tradesman money and everyone gets 3 quotes these days.
Tools cost money, Joe would spend more on a paintbrush than I would spend on a spanner. In the hands of a good painter a good brush = good quality work. Then there is the van to pay for plus administration expenses, paper and ink for quotes, phone bill, accountant or book keeper come tax time.
In reply to Taff2509:
Anything else you want to get off your chest?
And breath.......
Anything else you want to get off your chest?
And breath.......
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In reply to Dax H:
Yes, I was very impressed with the speed and quality of our decorator. I don't think viewing trades as a commodity is sensible - spending (even quite a lot) more for good work is worth it.
Yes, I was very impressed with the speed and quality of our decorator. I don't think viewing trades as a commodity is sensible - spending (even quite a lot) more for good work is worth it.
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In reply to TheDrunkenBakers:
We had a decorator do the whole house, inside and out. Went to Annecy for a week and came back and the house was painted, sweet. Cannot remember what it cost, but it is the way ahead.
We had a decorator do the whole house, inside and out. Went to Annecy for a week and came back and the house was painted, sweet. Cannot remember what it cost, but it is the way ahead.
In reply to TheDrunkenBakers:
I've recently been on the hunt for various types of tradespeople for work to be done on my house and I've found that asking my friends for recommendations on Facebook has brought some good guys to my attention.
I've recently been on the hunt for various types of tradespeople for work to be done on my house and I've found that asking my friends for recommendations on Facebook has brought some good guys to my attention.
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In reply to TheDrunkenBakers:
Visit any given B&Q and you will find a plethora of painters ready to do it very cheaply, they even provide their own roller extending pole.
Visit any given B&Q and you will find a plethora of painters ready to do it very cheaply, they even provide their own roller extending pole.
In reply to TheDrunkenBakers:
I pay around £250 per room including gloss, ceilings & preparing the surface (1 room will take 2 days ish).
I normally base it on how much per day per tradesman. Less than £150 for decorating I think is good.
It's quick & neat and they do a much better job than me.
I pay around £250 per room including gloss, ceilings & preparing the surface (1 room will take 2 days ish).
I normally base it on how much per day per tradesman. Less than £150 for decorating I think is good.
It's quick & neat and they do a much better job than me.
In reply to ryan p:
Don't know why you've got all the dislikes I wouldn't pay that either, as the old saying goes if ya can p##s, ya can paint.
> £20 per hour?. You can get a plumber or electrician for that amount. Painters get about £11 per hour on the books.
> I wouldn't pay any painter and decorator that amount.
Don't know why you've got all the dislikes I wouldn't pay that either, as the old saying goes if ya can p##s, ya can paint.
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In reply to Wsdconst:
F*ck them and there dislikes mate. I am a top plasterer up here. I can paint with my eyes shut too. So can most people. No painter is worth that amount of money. It's the easiest job in the building trade.
F*ck them and there dislikes mate. I am a top plasterer up here. I can paint with my eyes shut too. So can most people. No painter is worth that amount of money. It's the easiest job in the building trade.
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In reply to ryan p:
We are glorified cleaners!!!! Scraping plaster off tops of door frames!!! Ryan will know??
We are glorified cleaners!!!! Scraping plaster off tops of door frames!!! Ryan will know??
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In reply to Eeyore:
Yes i would love that. Need to get down there climbing sometime. Where are you ?
Yes i would love that. Need to get down there climbing sometime. Where are you ?
In reply to Taff2509:
I don't leave a mess mate. Never ever. Especially on timber. Maybe an old floor if it's getting replaced.
I don't leave a mess mate. Never ever. Especially on timber. Maybe an old floor if it's getting replaced.
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In reply to Taff2509:
It is sort of asap but can I can wait up to 6 months. Apologies if that is confusing.
Can email you a scanned copy of the insurance assessor guys scope if you want, although this is only half of what needs sorting.
I do need to scale drastically back on costs though - I took the dog for a 2000 mile walk that used a lot of the insurance payout.
It is sort of asap but can I can wait up to 6 months. Apologies if that is confusing.
Can email you a scanned copy of the insurance assessor guys scope if you want, although this is only half of what needs sorting.
I do need to scale drastically back on costs though - I took the dog for a 2000 mile walk that used a lot of the insurance payout.
In reply to Eeyore:
I will message you some details and you can see my work on Facebook I have a page with all my work on it. Yes I can come down there anytime after next week or whenever you want really.
Thanks very much indeed.
Any climbing nearby for night time fun ?
Have emailed you 😊
I will message you some details and you can see my work on Facebook I have a page with all my work on it. Yes I can come down there anytime after next week or whenever you want really.
Thanks very much indeed.
Any climbing nearby for night time fun ?
Have emailed you 😊
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In reply to TheDrunkenBakers:
Maybe 3 years ago in Glasgow, I got a decent Polish guy through ratedpeople.com. He wasn't brilliant, but was thorough - maybe an 8/10. He painted 3 large rooms and a hall in a tenement rental property; emulsion on the 10' high walls and low level gloss on the woodwork. From memory it was just under £400 all in (he even supplied the paint and gave me the 'semi-empties' when done) which was pretty damned good.
Maybe 3 years ago in Glasgow, I got a decent Polish guy through ratedpeople.com. He wasn't brilliant, but was thorough - maybe an 8/10. He painted 3 large rooms and a hall in a tenement rental property; emulsion on the 10' high walls and low level gloss on the woodwork. From memory it was just under £400 all in (he even supplied the paint and gave me the 'semi-empties' when done) which was pretty damned good.
In reply to Fraser:
Rated people is another good one Fraser I am on that myself. I lived in Glasgow for 5 years and tradesmen are pretty cheap for some reason in the city which I found strange.
Most of the Polish are very good at what they do.
In fact the only people that I can say I couldn't keep up with were 2 Polish men in there 50s and they were rendering a 3 block of houses in 2 days, they never even broke sweat it was just normal for them, well impressive to watch.
Rated people is another good one Fraser I am on that myself. I lived in Glasgow for 5 years and tradesmen are pretty cheap for some reason in the city which I found strange.
Most of the Polish are very good at what they do.
In fact the only people that I can say I couldn't keep up with were 2 Polish men in there 50s and they were rendering a 3 block of houses in 2 days, they never even broke sweat it was just normal for them, well impressive to watch.
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In reply to Eeyore:
Have replied to ryan p and Taff509 nearest wall is http://www.rockandrapidadventures.co.uk/climbing-wall a few miles down the road.
I may also be looking for the following;
Chimney Liners
Roofer
Electrician
Plumber
Landscaper
Laborer
No promises of work yet - need to work out what is achievable within budget.
Genuine post if anyone is wondering.
Have replied to ryan p and Taff509 nearest wall is http://www.rockandrapidadventures.co.uk/climbing-wall a few miles down the road.
I may also be looking for the following;
Chimney Liners
Roofer
Electrician
Plumber
Landscaper
Laborer
No promises of work yet - need to work out what is achievable within budget.
Genuine post if anyone is wondering.
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