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Currently our greatest athlete? Actually all our women seem better than the men at the moment, Football, Cricket etc, maybe the men overall can hold their own in cycling but I think womens Athletics may well get a boost with the new tighter drugs regime.
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In reply to Al Evans:
I would take issue that the women are better than the men. The women are better than other nation's women.
Have you seen much women's rugby, cricket etc.?
It is, with some notable exceptions, dire!
I would take issue that the women are better than the men. The women are better than other nation's women.
Have you seen much women's rugby, cricket etc.?
It is, with some notable exceptions, dire!
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In reply to Al Evans:
Better than Mo Farah? Jess Ennis? Lizzie Armistead? Greg Rutherford? Andy Fordham?
Better than Mo Farah? Jess Ennis? Lizzie Armistead? Greg Rutherford? Andy Fordham?
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In reply to Yanis Nayu:
I thought this was a thread about athletes, not overweight men playing pub games.
> Better than ... Andy Fordham?
I thought this was a thread about athletes, not overweight men playing pub games.
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In reply to Oceanrower:
I completely disagree, in Cricket, Rugby and Football I think our womens game is far more passionate and exciting than the mens game.
> I would take issue that the women are better than the men. The women are better than other nation's women.
> Have you seen much women's rugby, cricket etc.?
> It is, with some notable exceptions, dire!
I completely disagree, in Cricket, Rugby and Football I think our womens game is far more passionate and exciting than the mens game.
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In reply to Yanis Nayu:
I think the Mens athletics can hold its own in interest, mainly because of Mo and Greg, plus there is some hope in some of the younger sprinters, but really only Mo is world class. Jess has been a world star for some years but she has to fade as she gets older soon.
I think the Mens athletics can hold its own in interest, mainly because of Mo and Greg, plus there is some hope in some of the younger sprinters, but really only Mo is world class. Jess has been a world star for some years but she has to fade as she gets older soon.
In reply to Al Evans:
I think you'd have to say Greg Rutherford is world class. Isn't he Olympic and world champion? What else does he need to do to convince you?
I think you'd have to say Greg Rutherford is world class. Isn't he Olympic and world champion? What else does he need to do to convince you?
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OlIn reply to Phil1919:
Isn't he Olympic, World, Commonwealth and European champ. At the same time. I'd say that makes him world class.
Andy F
> I think you'd have to say Greg Rutherford is world class. Isn't he Olympic and world champion? What else does he need to do to convince you?
Isn't he Olympic, World, Commonwealth and European champ. At the same time. I'd say that makes him world class.
Andy F
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In reply to Al Evans:
Soon? Has she managed to stop time?
> Jess has been a world star for some years but she has to fade as she gets older soon.
Soon? Has she managed to stop time?
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In reply to andy farnell:
I suppose people would say the commonwealth and European titles don't really signify world class! But having all 4 at the same time is some going.
I suppose people would say the commonwealth and European titles don't really signify world class! But having all 4 at the same time is some going.
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In reply to Al Evans:
Alistair Brownlee current Olympic, Commonweath and European mens triathlon champion?
Alistair Brownlee current Olympic, Commonweath and European mens triathlon champion?
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In reply to Al Evans:
Are you really saying Ennis-Hill isn't world class. She is Olympic and double World Champion, it would be triple but for a drugs cheat. She is also third (I think) on the all time list for Heptathlon.
Are you really saying Ennis-Hill isn't world class. She is Olympic and double World Champion, it would be triple but for a drugs cheat. She is also third (I think) on the all time list for Heptathlon.
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In reply to Al Evans:
I go can go down to the reck tomorrow morning and see a better game with more power, skill and speed than than the women's FA cup final.
Women's football is dire.
Wally
> I completely disagree, in Cricket, Rugby and Football I think our womens game is far more passionate and exciting than the mens game.
I go can go down to the reck tomorrow morning and see a better game with more power, skill and speed than than the women's FA cup final.
Women's football is dire.
Wally
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In reply to The New NickB:
Not only that she's the current world champion having won it last August. Hardly past it!
> Are you really saying Ennis-Hill isn't world class. She is Olympic and double World Champion, it would be triple but for a drugs cheat. She is also third (I think) on the all time list for Heptathlon.
Not only that she's the current world champion having won it last August. Hardly past it!
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In reply to The New NickB:
No Jess is still the best, and Armistead just gets better, but hardly anyone in the UK know the name of Laura Trott. Complete rubbish about womens team sports, the footy team is way better than the mens in comparision to international competition. There was a time when Robinson was in goal when the womens goalie should have made the mens team.
> Are you really saying Ennis-Hill isn't world class. She is Olympic and double World Champion, it would be triple but for a drugs cheat. She is also third (I think) on the all time list for Heptathlon.
No Jess is still the best, and Armistead just gets better, but hardly anyone in the UK know the name of Laura Trott. Complete rubbish about womens team sports, the footy team is way better than the mens in comparision to international competition. There was a time when Robinson was in goal when the womens goalie should have made the mens team.
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In reply to andy farnell:
I'd say that Greg is world class for all those reasons but he always seems to struggle to get the recognition he rightly deserves. I guess it's largely to do with the distances he jumps to win these events. He's a great competitor and does what is necessary to take the gold at a big competition ... but sometimes, by world class standards, that's not massive ... the 8.41 to win the worlds was pretty good but wasn't Carl Lewis regularly jumping 8.70 back in the 80's?
Actually, the same could be said about Mo.
I'd say that Greg is world class for all those reasons but he always seems to struggle to get the recognition he rightly deserves. I guess it's largely to do with the distances he jumps to win these events. He's a great competitor and does what is necessary to take the gold at a big competition ... but sometimes, by world class standards, that's not massive ... the 8.41 to win the worlds was pretty good but wasn't Carl Lewis regularly jumping 8.70 back in the 80's?
Actually, the same could be said about Mo.
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In reply to Al Evans:
I've always thought the goalies were the weakest women players in comparison to the men.
I've always thought the goalies were the weakest women players in comparison to the men.
In reply to Yanis Nayu:
I was bored and so checked the facts, and the verdict is that; A) it seems she is much more succesful than all of those by a big margin with a significantly bigger medal count, most notably Golds, and B) Other than Mo Farah (who is still woefully short on medal count but still holds up) everyone else in the list seems to be overhyped celebrity stuff.
> Better than Mo Farah? Jess Ennis? Lizzie Armistead? Greg Rutherford? Andy Fordham?
I was bored and so checked the facts, and the verdict is that; A) it seems she is much more succesful than all of those by a big margin with a significantly bigger medal count, most notably Golds, and B) Other than Mo Farah (who is still woefully short on medal count but still holds up) everyone else in the list seems to be overhyped celebrity stuff.
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In reply to Al Evans:
I presume you're still living in Spain, Al, but I'd say that Laura trott is probably one of the best known sports women in the country, just as well known as Armitstead. The problem is that the vast majority of media attention is on men's sports, particularly football, and particularly the premier league. And I have to say Lizzie is the more impressive at the moment, simply because she is in the more competitive arena. She's just won 4 races in a row, including the world champs, winning the World Cup, and now the first race of the world tour. Will she be on the front pages tomorrow? Of course not.
> No Jess is still the best, and Armistead just gets better, but hardly anyone in the UK know the name of Laura Trott.
I presume you're still living in Spain, Al, but I'd say that Laura trott is probably one of the best known sports women in the country, just as well known as Armitstead. The problem is that the vast majority of media attention is on men's sports, particularly football, and particularly the premier league. And I have to say Lizzie is the more impressive at the moment, simply because she is in the more competitive arena. She's just won 4 races in a row, including the world champs, winning the World Cup, and now the first race of the world tour. Will she be on the front pages tomorrow? Of course not.
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In reply to Chris the Tall:
Media coverage: R4 sport piece at 8:30 this morning wittered on for ages about ONE football game. Not a single mention of the ongoing cycle championships at the Olympic velodrome...
Media coverage: R4 sport piece at 8:30 this morning wittered on for ages about ONE football game. Not a single mention of the ongoing cycle championships at the Olympic velodrome...
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In reply to Oceanrower:
ive tried to watch womens cricket,football and darts at international level,its not even the standard of weekend mens sports. unwatchable
ive tried to watch womens cricket,football and darts at international level,its not even the standard of weekend mens sports. unwatchable
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In reply to andy:
I will admit that it's most interesting premiership race for many years, thanks to Leicester, but the track worlds have been brilliant all week - excellent finale to the omnium, Dibben in points, trott in the scratch......
I will admit that it's most interesting premiership race for many years, thanks to Leicester, but the track worlds have been brilliant all week - excellent finale to the omnium, Dibben in points, trott in the scratch......
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In reply to Chris the Tall:
I've got in on mute cos my wife's listening to music - but is Kenny in the sprint live now? If so - gripping. If not - no spoilers please!
I've got in on mute cos my wife's listening to music - but is Kenny in the sprint live now? If so - gripping. If not - no spoilers please!
In reply to mark s:
As a tranmere rovers fan, I think the standard of the women's football team is impressive!
As a tranmere rovers fan, I think the standard of the women's football team is impressive!
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In reply to andy:
Yep, it's live. I put it on mute last night when on the phone to my mum. It was a long call - not that I said much (Irish mother!) and when I looked up it had morphed into dwarf football - very Alan Partridge
Yep, it's live. I put it on mute last night when on the phone to my mum. It was a long call - not that I said much (Irish mother!) and when I looked up it had morphed into dwarf football - very Alan Partridge
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In reply to Chris the Tall:
American lady seems to be inordinately chuffed to have won one race out of six in the Omnium. Suspect Trotty may bite back...
American lady seems to be inordinately chuffed to have won one race out of six in the Omnium. Suspect Trotty may bite back...
In reply to andy:
It's just been pointed out that the Kenny-Trott house could end up top of the medal table!
It's just been pointed out that the Kenny-Trott house could end up top of the medal table!
In reply to Chris the Tall:
Brilliant little moment when Kenny walked past Trott warming up - obviously wanted to go over and celebrate but he just gave her a little nod and walked past.
Their kids'll be a bit good on a bike, eh?
Brilliant little moment when Kenny walked past Trott warming up - obviously wanted to go over and celebrate but he just gave her a little nod and walked past.
Their kids'll be a bit good on a bike, eh?
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In reply to Al Evans:
Boyukasha is better than Trott. Is it because that she is black that she is not better known than Trott?
Boyukasha is better than Trott. Is it because that she is black that she is not better known than Trott?
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In reply to Al Evans:
Laura is hardly an unknown, double Olympic Champion, 6 times World Champion, she even appeared on an episode of Guy Martin's Speed.
Laura is hardly an unknown, double Olympic Champion, 6 times World Champion, she even appeared on an episode of Guy Martin's Speed.
In reply to Mr Lopez:
Can you name another British athlete (athletics) with 7 global titles, only a complete idiot would consider Farah's medal count "woefully short".
> I was bored and so checked the facts, and the verdict is that; A) it seems she is much more succesful than all of those by a big margin with a significantly bigger medal count, most notably Golds, and B) Other than Mo Farah (who is still woefully short on medal count but still holds up) everyone else in the list seems to be overhyped celebrity stuff.
Can you name another British athlete (athletics) with 7 global titles, only a complete idiot would consider Farah's medal count "woefully short".
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In reply to The New NickB:
When compared with Trott's medal count in response to a sugestion that Farah was "greater"... Only an ignorant illiterate moron would fail to notice the relevance of the context that was quoted 3 centimetres higher up
When compared with Trott's medal count in response to a sugestion that Farah was "greater"... Only an ignorant illiterate moron would fail to notice the relevance of the context that was quoted 3 centimetres higher up
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In reply to Mr Lopez:
Anyone who knew anything about either sport would recognise that athletics is a far more global sport with far greater participation than track cycling and also that track cycling world championships happen twice as often. Farah has won every global title available in his two events for the last 4 and a half years, Trott hasn't.
Trott is a great athlete and at only 23, hopefully we will see an awful lot more from her, but you cannot compare the world championship medal count in the two sports.
> When compared with Trott's medal count in response to a sugestion that Farah was "greater"... Only an ignorant illiterate moron would fail to notice the relevance of the context that was quoted 3 centimetres higher up
Anyone who knew anything about either sport would recognise that athletics is a far more global sport with far greater participation than track cycling and also that track cycling world championships happen twice as often. Farah has won every global title available in his two events for the last 4 and a half years, Trott hasn't.
Trott is a great athlete and at only 23, hopefully we will see an awful lot more from her, but you cannot compare the world championship medal count in the two sports.
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In reply to Al Evans:
Been riding my bike all day, but it seems Laura Trott has won another gold. I think in terms of overlooked and under reported world champions, we all seem to have forgotten Rachel Atherton and Manon Carpenter.
Meanwhile back on the track, I've no idea what was going on in the Madison, but it's great to see two of Britain's greatest ever sportsmen together again, and for Wiggo to be able to retire as a World champion
Been riding my bike all day, but it seems Laura Trott has won another gold. I think in terms of overlooked and under reported world champions, we all seem to have forgotten Rachel Atherton and Manon Carpenter.
Meanwhile back on the track, I've no idea what was going on in the Madison, but it's great to see two of Britain's greatest ever sportsmen together again, and for Wiggo to be able to retire as a World champion
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