In reply to JamButty:
> Ha, gotta love the dislike button - why would your comments be disliked!
> Cheers, Manc isn't that far so its tempting, the track angle on certain camera shots looks scary itself!
Taster sessions at Manc are, or were, ridiculously cheap, albeit at awkward times if you work. I asked about the angle and I think I was told it was 42 degrees (or percent) at its steepest, and that it is steeper than most. I"d just come back from a trip to Ailfroide and thinking that we'd been smearing up slabs not too much steeper! One of our party didn't venture further up than the black line!